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IronBrigadeMike (IBM) · Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 6334 Location: VA

Don Quixote wrote: soldierofchrist wrote: Never. I never said to myself, " I like women, not men." It's just what came naturally. Agreed.

StrangerWitCandy · Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 5061 Location: Fairfax, VA

who you screw is the choice. who you are attracted to is not. i could have sex with women all day long and it wouldn't make me love them more than i do men. many people confuse sexual orientation with the act of sex itself. sex is merely an act, obviously a choice. but orientation is that internal attraction that you never asked for and can hardly control. even when i've had no sexual activity for long periods of time i've still considered myself gay, because the same sex is simply what i'm attracted to and always have been

Frosty451 · Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 854

I don't think I ever "chose" to be hetero, it seems to me I always WAS hetero. As long as I can remember I've liked girls :flwr:

Soldier of Humanity · Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 975 Location: The Royal City

i always felt atracted to girls, but about half a year a ago i did some serious questioning myselfand decided i was attracted to girls but if i ever felt attracted to a guy then i would let myself be attracted to them.

George W Bush · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:

whose got time to reflect on this? i'm still on the fence. Best of both worlds? HAHAHAHAHAH! uh, depends on who it is - you know?
to dedicate myself to a specific sexuality is to deny the possibilities - there's too many nice lookin folk on this rock to make such a fun-ending decision!!

but, i am asexual anyways.....

Jay2014 · Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 1243

George W Bush wrote: whose got time to reflect on this? i'm still on the fence. Best of both worlds? HAHAHAHAHAH! uh, depends on who it is - you know?
to dedicate myself to a specific sexuality is to deny the possibilities - there's too many nice lookin folk on this rock to make such a fun-ending decision!!

but, i am asexual anyways.....
ive never talked to an asexual before-so, you have no attraction to anyone?

Eternal · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 2043 Location: Somewhere

If I remember correctly, I think I developed my first crushes on girls when I was about eight or nine. They weren't choices either, they were biology. I tend to prefer to hang out with men rather than women, but I could never be attracted to a man the same way I'm attracted to a women. As for kissing or embracing a man the same way I would a woman, well yuck! I could never choose to be a homosexual.

Cheers, Eternal

BTExpress · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:17 am Post subject:

There is a forum for this kind of topic now.

Moved.

George W Bush · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:48 am Post subject:

Jay2014 wrote: George W Bush wrote: whose got time to reflect on this? i'm still on the fence. Best of both worlds? HAHAHAHAHAH! uh, depends on who it is - you know?
to dedicate myself to a specific sexuality is to deny the possibilities - there's too many nice lookin folk on this rock to make such a fun-ending decision!!

but, i am asexual anyways.....
ive never talked to an asexual before-so, you have no attraction to anyone?

asexuality is more of a choice than biology. its not that i'm NOT attracted to anyone, its that I choose to remain asexual - not engaging in sexual behaviour.

F'losrix · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject:

d357r0y3r wrote: Well, I guess I make the choice every time I allow a female to experience my sweet loving. :wink:

I'm pretty sure I could make myself be gay, if I really tried to. I was not raised in an environment where it was seen as an acceptable lifestyle, so I wasn't given an opportunity to be raised in that mindsight. That said, maybe I'm gay, and I just don't know it. I guess that's really the point. Everyone is secretly gay - they just need to come to admit it.

<--- makes scoffing noises at the idea that someone could make themselves gay.

Everyone is not secretly gay - unless there's some secret about this that heterosexuals are collectively harboring, which I doubt. We may all feel some degree of attraction to the same sex, but admitting that won't make you gay, either.

I freely admit that I've had very fleeting feelings of attraction to the opposite sex. At one point early on I tried to find a way to encourage those feelings in myself in hopes that it would grow and eventually turn me straight. But it didn't take all that long to realize that there was no way they would ever trump the strength, depth and breadth of the attraction I feel toward members of the same sex.

MasterChefD · Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 235

I agree that it really was more of a realization rather than a decision.

I'm actually a bit surprised that out of the 25 or so people that responded, already a few could make themselves attracted to the opposite sex they are attracted to now. I expected there would be less. I personally don't think I would ever be attracted to the same gender I am.

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 20982 Location: Minnesota

eXploiTeD wrote: My first Betty Boop cartoon. What a hotty.

It's "Betty Boop; what a dish."

As for the other thing ... please see another thread I made in this section on Eugenics andSexuality. From there I'd like tocarryover the idea that if itis genetic (which I know it is) it is a defect that can be cured (I'm not saying it is or itisn't, I'm just arguing this point, I hope all understand). To argue against that one must say you cannot infringe on other people's choices. Homosexuality in 50 years willbe a choice for the youngins in their test tubes. It's not a choice many, if any, will make, but it will be the only way homosexuality will continue,at least in the west.

Jay2014 · Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 1243

George W Bush wrote: Jay2014 wrote: George W Bush wrote: whose got time to reflect on this? i'm still on the fence. Best of both worlds? HAHAHAHAHAH! uh, depends on who it is - you know?
to dedicate myself to a specific sexuality is to deny the possibilities - there's too many nice lookin folk on this rock to make such a fun-ending decision!!

but, i am asexual anyways.....
ive never talked to an asexual before-so, you have no attraction to anyone?

asexuality is more of a choice than biology. its not that i'm NOT attracted to anyone, its that I choose to remain asexual - not engaging in sexual behaviour.

i think youre confusing asexual with abstinent.
asexual:
1. Having no evident sex or sex organs; sexless.
2. Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction that occurs without the union of male and female gametes, as in binary fission or budding.
3. Lacking interest in or desire for sex.

PrinceJunius · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:52 am Post subject:

Quote: I'm pretty sure I could make myself be gay, if I really tried to.

No, you couldn't. I'd be able to see right through it. I can always tell when a guy is truly gay, or if a guy is choosing to be gay for whatever reason. Don't ask me how I can tell, just my internal gaydar.

lumkins · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject:

As far as I can remeber I have liked girls, there was no point at which I waid I think I'll be heterosexual it just came naturally

Gryff1nd0r · Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 2373 Location: Cambridge, MA

when paul moved in next door

Ek0nomik · Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: La Fleur

I naturally was attracted to woman. However I believe that being homosexual is something that can come out through our society/environment surroundings, as well as it could also be a natural occurence.

These are two reports I found on the natural happenings of homosexuality.

http://www.libchrist.com/other/homosexual/natural.html

http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm

I personally wouldn't take these are hard evidence at all, considering the people who wrote these articles are obviously opinionated towards it being a natural occurence. But it may serve as a good read if you're bored. :)

I still don't see the hype over homosexuals. I don't understand why people feel the need to exclude them from equal rights.

Tracker · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:

Ekono wrote: I still don't see the hype over homosexuals. I don't understand why people feel the need to exclude them from equal rights.

You don't? I thought it was rather obvious: humans are gay -- institutions that thrive on offspring are not. :wink:

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I nearly fell out of my chair when I read Hargreave's response -- the whole point of the original post went right over his head -- a rare event, indeed, and a memorable one to boot. :lol:

I do not think for one minute that sexual turn-ons are a choice. Attractions are not chosen. Nobody wakes up one day and says, 'gee, I now like chocolate' -- you either do or you don't. Most do. Most people like sunshine, too. Nothing mysterious about how that 'choice' was made.

Just curious -- does that sound like 'Free Will' to you? :lol: Assigned gender identity; assigned attractions; assigned roles. Hmmm ... think about it.

That said, I'm one of the few that is convinced that Sexual Orientation is chosen.

How's that?

As stated, the attractions just ARE -- you 'orientate' yourself to whatever lifestyle you choose to live.

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00timh · Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 12761 Location: upstate NY

Not a choice but I can vividly remember the day when I felt my first crush. I was in the 5th grade and up to that point I hated girls, I actually thought they were icky :lol: seriously, then there was this new girl, long brown hair, sweet little voice, suddenly I was so happy that I was sitting next to her and I couldn't stop looking at her. suddenly she was all I could think about.