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Melchior · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 9351 Location: Palm Beach

SavannahMan wrote: That is your choice whether you choose to continue to be friends with people who do things you consider to be wrong.

But I'm talking about the level of wrong. I would not continue to be friends with someone who lies, steals or even kills. I wouldn't care about something that happens in the bedroom though. That's not my business and I shouldn't judge, no coercion is involved. Where is coercion an issue with homosexuality?

If anything the drinking is more offensive because people drink when they are out.

SavannahMan wrote: As for your second question - I would end the friendship upon finding out.

How would you find out? How many friendships have ended in your case because of something like this?

You probably live in a more rural area, or else this would be that big of a deal.

PrinceJunius · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject:

Quote: You probably live in a more rural area, or else this would be that big of a deal.

50 bucks says he's from Mississippi.

SavannahMan · Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 1307

Every person has to make their own determination as to the level of "wrong".

I certainly dont actively seek out the details of my acquaintances sexual preferences - so I guess I have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy - how very Bill Clinton of me!

How many friendships have been ended? Well of course we are talking about some who were only casual friends to those I had known for years and years. Probably less than a dozen.

Your assumption that I live in a rural area is inaccurate unless you consider Savannah to be rural, Atlanta before that - both cities have rather large homosexual populations. It really isnt a big deal to me - I prefer to not have friends who I can't respect - seems simple to me.

SavannahMan · Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 1307

PrinceJunius wrote: Quote: You probably live in a more rural area, or else this would be that big of a deal.

50 bucks says he's from Mississippi.

$50 bucks says you are under 25 years old.

00timh · Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 12761 Location: upstate NY

SavannahMan wrote: How many do I know? Too many.

How many am I friends with? Zero. Why is it that political crossfire's most anti gay person is a regular poster in the gay forum and has delved into the personal sexual habits without reason... and has the gayest avatar ever seen on this forum?????????

PrinceJunius · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:56 am Post subject:

00timh wrote: Why is it that political crossfire's most anti gay person is a regular poster in the gay forum and has delved into the personal sexual habits without reason... and has the gayest avatar ever seen on this forum?????????

Shh, let him vent. Coming out can be very painful for some people. Give him some space.

:lol:

Melchior · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 9351 Location: Palm Beach

00timh wrote: SavannahMan wrote: How many do I know? Too many.

How many am I friends with? Zero. Why is it that political crossfire's most anti gay person is a regular poster in the gay forum and has delved into the personal sexual habits without reason... and has the gayest avatar ever seen on this forum?????????

OMFG. :bnghd: :rotf:

I almost choked 00timh!

Pelagius · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 888

How many gay people do I know? Several hundred.

BTExpress · Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject:

Locke25 wrote: Skeptical Mystic wrote: Locke25 wrote: soldierofchrist wrote: I know one, and a half. :lol: One everyone knows is gay. The total sterotype gay, male cheerleader, etc. The other one, is questionable. He's never came out, but everyone's assumed he was gay. He totally fits every gay sterotype invented, and he's actually my friend, so I don't care one way or another.

:lol: the gay guy i know is a... dancer. :rotf:
I'm curious as to why you find that funny. Is it because you can't picture a straight man having the talent to pursue this as a profession, or because you view it as a lowly career unworthy of consideration by a straight man? Or something else?

well.. since i hate all gay people... i'm going to have to say that they deserve the shi**y jobs, such as "dancer." i think a straight man is just so much more intelligent and his nice brain can be used for being a lawyer, doctor, etc. let the gays dance and pick out clothing..

:roll: :roll: :roll:

My opinion of you just took a nose dive. I am very surprised at what your saying. You are entitled to your opinion, and have a right to say it, but.....

....I'll leave it at that. :cry:

JDnCoke · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1153 Location: Oxford, Queen's

SavannahMan wrote: That is your choice whether you choose to continue to be friends with people who do things you consider to be wrong.

As for your second question - I would end the friendship upon finding out.

You have a son, you love him very much, he is everything you wanted; successful. You later find out he is gay. Do you end the relationship?

curisz · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 2104 Location: chicago

I knew a great many back in college, a couple of whom are still friends, and i work in a restaurant in the middle of Chicago's gay neighborhood. My boss is gay, the waitstaff is mostly gay, and a big big chunk of our regular customers are gay. Some are pretty obvious about it, mostly the young ones and those that refuse to grow up. Most are actually pretty much regular guys. I mean, you can tell, there are certain characteristics gay people seem to subconsciously or consciously adopt that make it very evident if you are aware, but they are subtle things, not the over the top queen act. Its really the equivalent to hetero behavior, and in about the same proportions. The really queeny ones are the gay equivalent of the guys who shout "Duuude" all the time, get wasted every chance they get, and specialize in one night stands with drunk chicks. Its all just attempts by pretty insecure people to form a sexual identity.

The most longstanding relationship I know is my two college buddies, who have now been together over 15 years. And they were each others first homosexual relationship. How often does that happen? It has to be some kind of record...

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 8780

SavannahMan wrote: That is your choice whether you choose to continue to be friends with people who do things you consider to be wrong.

As for your second question - I would end the friendship upon finding out.

I may not agree with your sense of morality, but I have to respect your decision to believe that way. I find Christianity to be immoral, so I choose not to associate with Christians. You may think that my sense of morality, and moral outrage at Christians is unfounded, but you have to respect my decision to believe that way.

But, back on topic...how many gay people do I know? More than I can count. Being gay myself, I am probably exposed to more openly gay men and women than a lot of straight people are. And, becuase of that, I have more gay male friends than I do straight male friends. Granted, that is not true of all gay men, but it is for me.

JDnCoke wrote:

You have a son, you love him very much, he is everything you wanted; successful. You later find out he is gay. Do you end the relationship?

Unfortunately, too many people do end relationships with their children once that child comes out. It is a sad day when a parent would rather focus on the one "bad" thing about their child than the many qualities they love about them.

Also, my above comment about Christians is not true. I was strictly making a point.

Robweiller · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 523 Location: warsaw.pl

I know some gay men from my university. They are generally timid.
Interesting fact is that they have never mentioned anything in reality. They came out in their blogs.
Alas, I don't befriend anyone of them.
But there are also some very "anti-gay guys" who often bash others on "gay grounds" and insinuate madly others are homosexual (only because one wears a colourful shirt), which is quite irritating for the time being. For instance, one of them stated once I must be gay. His only proof for my hidden homosexuality was the fact he saw me smoking a thin "girly cigarette" with my girlfriend. Explanations that it was from her pack and I just "helped myself" meant nothing, as "the true and straight man" would never put a cigarette like that in his mouth. Never ever. Geez. I think the guy has some serious problems with his identity - the suspects he's different but doesn't want to accept that. Oh well.

I don't happen to know any lesbian, at least not to my knowledge. The astounding majority of the gals I know are in relationships with men or crave for being in one.

Plus, lots of people I met in the net admit they're gay (or lesbian).

MetalLives2 · Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 24

i have to say i dont know any, because i hate them all and refuse to "get to know them" the only getting to know them i will do is pulling the trigger of my .50 cal pointed right at their face