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Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10977 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

NortheastGuy · Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 509

ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Honestly? I'd have no problem with it, if it were legal. My issue is with the righteous indignation people have with the law, as if only certain laws should apply to them.

Hey, why not let anyone who wants to cross the border? Its their problem.

Hey, why not let that guy rape that woman? Its her problem, not yours.

Yes, they are crass examples, but my point is that there is a difference between working to have a law changed or overturned, and breaking the law because you don't think its right.

Gus · Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 7609 Location: Tampa, FL

NortheastGuy wrote: ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Honestly? I'd have no problem with it, if it were legal. My issue is with the righteous indignation people have with the law, as if only certain laws should apply to them.

Hey, why not let anyone who wants to cross the border? Its their problem.

Hey, why not let that guy rape that woman? Its her problem, not yours.

Yes, they are crass examples, but my point is that there is a difference between working to have a law changed or overturned, and breaking the law because you don't think its right.
And that is why breaking laws comes with consequences.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10977 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Quote: Hey, why not let anyone who wants to cross the border? Its their problem.
I would line the bourder with a razor wire fence, if someone wants to be here, they need to come here legaly.

Quote: Hey, why not let that guy rape that woman? Its her problem, not yours.
That falls into force and fraud, thus she is protected by the Libertarian form of government.

NortheastGuy · Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 509

derEikopf wrote: NortheastGuy wrote: ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Honestly? I'd have no problem with it, if it were legal. My issue is with the righteous indignation people have with the law, as if only certain laws should apply to them.

Hey, why not let anyone who wants to cross the border? Its their problem.

Hey, why not let that guy rape that woman? Its her problem, not yours.

Yes, they are crass examples, but my point is that there is a difference between working to have a law changed or overturned, and breaking the law because you don't think its right.
And that is why breaking laws comes with consequences.

That's what I thought too, but apparently not everyone here agrees... :lol:

tk750 · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:28 am Post subject:

ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Are you kidding? I mean, I know that I'm new here but do you know what you are saying? Marijuana impairs brain cells causing users to be retarded and unfit for society (i.e. driving). It also creates an extreme addiction. Although cigarettes may be more addicting, it does not make you unfit for society (i.e. slowed reaction time). Also, alcohol is something that you need to take a lot of to get drunk (or at least you realize your limit). With marijuana, if you take (new user) 4 or 5 puffs, you are high. Think of it as a bad mix of alcohol and cigarettes. Would you really want such a substance to be legal? To have people driving in cars under this influence? Drunk driving is bad enough, I don't think we need to bombard this nation with more tragedies due to some selfish idiots who want to smoke pot.

P.S. It becomes "your problem" when some **** gets you, your friends, or your family hurt because he was high.

Norrin Radd · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 2930

NortheastGuy wrote: Norrin Radd wrote: Sukoi wrote: NortheastGuy wrote: OK, I'll apologize in advance that I haven't read all 7 pages, but I thought I'd add my own meager thoughts to this discussion. My opinon may be a little off the wall, so bear with me!

With regards to legalization, I am for doing so. Its effects are very similar to those of alcohol, if not milder. There are proven medicinal values to it. Its certainly not my top issue when picking elected officials, but I would not hold this position against a candidate if they held it.

However, in the interim, pot is illegal. I fully support fighting the distribution of pot on the streets today. While you may not agree with a law, it IS the law. It was once illegal to be a "witch" and people were murdered by the government for that just as they are now for possessing vegetable matter but it was the "LAW". It was once legal to imprison black people to work for whites much as they now imprison people to tend to vegetable matter because of the laws against vegetable matter but hey, it's the "LAW", right? So if a law were passed that said that your feet could be no longer than six inches long, I guess that you'd chop off your toes, because apparently the "LAW" seems to be all that matters regardless of how unconstitutional or illegal the law is, is that correct? I think that pretty much sums up your opinion on this issue but please correct me if I'm wrong!

What about rounding up Japanese Americans during WWII, it was the law right? Who cares that these Americans were treated worse than many POW's? Who cares that they lost most of what they owned?

It was the law.

Maybe Northeastguy will start his own business and just when his hard work his sttarting to pay off, the govenrment will decide his business property is worth more to a dveloper, so they will offer him what they consider "fair market value" and all his hard work will be for nothing, cuz it's the law.

Maybe the next time the police kill an innocent person at a no-knock drug raid, where they have the WRONG ADDRESS, they will kill someone who Northeastguy cares about. Maybe then he can come here and tell me about the F%^**&^%$ law!
Wow, what a load of BS.

You fight the LAW if its wrong, not commit unlawful acts. With regards to the example presented, (my business being taken away) -- I'd fight that tooth and nail, but what you described does NOT involve me breaking the law. It involves what I believe is an injust law but nothing I did broke any rules. Using or growing pot, through the action, breaks the law. There is a concrete difference.

"Unjust" is in the eye of the beholder. Don't like a law? Work through your government or courts to have it changed. I have no sympathy for someone who willing breaks the law simply because they don't think its valid or should apply to them.

So what the "pro-pot" crowd here believes is that laws are a la carte, i.e. follow only those that don't inconvienence you?

So, if you had been around in 1776 you would have supported the King, as you wouldn't want to break any laws right? No, have to be a good little citizen and no matter what laws the gubbermint makes, I can't break any of them.

Jeesh.

Do you know how many Congressman have admitted to smoking weed? Know how many policemen, judges and lawyers have "probably" smoked weed?

Do you even know why the Marijuana Tax Act was passed and what they used for evidence to get Congress to believe marijauna was so evil?

Your opinion is based on one life experience and is without merit.

Please do not ever bother replying to any of my posts unless you are willing to educate yourself.

I have dealt with enough ignorant people in my life and I simply do not have time to waste on those who are not willing to do some simple research.

Norrin Radd · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 2930

tk750 wrote: ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Are you kidding? I mean, I know that I'm new here but do you know what you are saying? Marijuana impairs brain cells causing users to be retarded and unfit for society (i.e. driving). It also creates an extreme addiction. Although cigarettes may be more addicting, it does not make you unfit for society (i.e. slowed reaction time). Also, alcohol is something that you need to take a lot of to get drunk (or at least you realize your limit). With marijuana, if you take (new user) 4 or 5 puffs, you are high. Think of it as a bad mix of alcohol and cigarettes. Would you really want such a substance to be legal? To have people driving in cars under this influence? Drunk driving is bad enough, I don't think we need to bombard this nation with more tragedies due to some selfish idiots who want to smoke pot.

P.S. It becomes "your problem" when some ***hole gets you, your friends, or your family hurt because he was high.

Have to say that is one of the most pathetic posts I have ever read.

Alcohol causes more deaths, more physical harm, more suffering, than ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED.

Here are some stats just on traffic deaths.........

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Alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes kill someone every 31 minutes and nonfatally injure someone every two minutes (NHTSA 2004a).

Occurrence and Consequences

* During 2003, 17,013 people in the U.S. died in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes, representing 40% of all traffic-related deaths (NHTSA 2004a).

* In 2002, about 1.5 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics (NHTSA 2004a). That’s slightly more than one percent of the 120 million self-reported episodes of alcohol–impaired driving among U.S. adults each year (Dellinger 1999).

* Drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18% of motor vehicle driver deaths. These other drugs are generally used in combination with alcohol (NHTSA 2003).

* More than two-thirds of child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-related crashes during 1997–2002 were riding with the drinking driver; only 32% of them were properly restrained at the time of the crash (Shults 2004).

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/drving.htm

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Now, if you are capable of logical thought, which is really in doubt at present, then you might notice that the stats about marijuana traffic deaths include cociane and "other" drugs and it mentions they are usually used in combination with alcohol.

Hmmmmmmmmm. Where are the stats for people who are just on marijuana causing traffic deaths?

Good luck trying to find them.

Here is a study form Australia, but please, don't let facts get in the way of your opinion..........

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Risk analysis studies to investigate the contribution of drugs to accident causation are limited. We have used a method based on establishing the responsibility of a driver to investigate the involvement of drugs other than alcohol in 1052 fatally injured drivers. The proportion of drivers deemed to be responsible in a drug-free group were compared to drivers with target drugs found in their blood stream.

Drugs (including alcohol) were detected in 49% of the drivers. Alcohol was detected in 36% of the cases, whilst drugs were detected in 22%. 13% had only drugs detected. The remaining 9% of the population involved a combination of drugs and alcohol. The order of prevalence of drugs were marijuana (112 cases), amphetamines and related stimulants (35), benzodiazepines (34) and opiates (34).

Drivers in whom only opiates were detected had an odd's ratio of 2.4, whilst marijuana cases provided a relative risk of 0.6. Drivers in whom stimulants were detected gave an odd's ratio of 1.4 whilst benzodiazepines gave an odd's ratio of 1.0. By contrast the odd's ratio for alcohol was 6.8.

Drivers with higher than therapeutic concentrations detected represented 22 drivers (2.1%). Most of these drivers were found to be culpable. Multiple drug cases also tended to be culpable. The culpability rate in this group was 89% compared to 70% in drug-free drivers.

These data show that only a small proportion of impaired drivers are drug effected, the remainder being impaired by alcohol. The relative risk for psychoactive drugs is also not uniform, with marijuana use providing the least effect on risk, whilst opiate use seems to provide the largest increase in risk compared to the other drug groups studied.

While certain psychoactive drugs other than alcohol can adversely affect driving skills in simulated studies, epidemiological risk analysis data which provides an assessment of the contribution, of specific drugs or drug classes to accident causation is limited. The effect of benzodiazepines and minor tranquillisers on accident risk are uncertain [Skegg et al, 1979; Jick et al, 1981; Lagier et al, 1993], while the effects of THC appears to be slight or even protective [Terhune et al, 1992; Williams et al, 1985]. Assessment of risk for other drugs or drug groups has not been studied in any detail.

http://www.taima.org/en/driving.htm

tk750 · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject:

Norrin Radd wrote: tk750 wrote: ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Are you kidding? I mean, I know that I'm new here but do you know what you are saying? Marijuana impairs brain cells causing users to be retarded and unfit for society (i.e. driving). It also creates an extreme addiction. Although cigarettes may be more addicting, it does not make you unfit for society (i.e. slowed reaction time). Also, alcohol is something that you need to take a lot of to get drunk (or at least you realize your limit). With marijuana, if you take (new user) 4 or 5 puffs, you are high. Think of it as a bad mix of alcohol and cigarettes. Would you really want such a substance to be legal? To have people driving in cars under this influence? Drunk driving is bad enough, I don't think we need to bombard this nation with more tragedies due to some selfish idiots who want to smoke pot.

P.S. It becomes "your problem" when some ***hole gets you, your friends, or your family hurt because he was high.

Have to say that is one of the most pathetic posts I have ever read.

Alcohol causes more deaths, more physical harm, more suffering, than ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED.

Listen, its not like the government just one day said hey, lets illegalize marijuana for the hell of it. Marijuana may cause few deaths but seriously one death is a tragedy enough. You may read accidents that say something somthing 4 killed and think to yourself, well it was only 4 people. Well think of the families, children, and friends. The real people who get hurt aren't the ones who died but the ones who lived to experience the tragedy. You get only one chance at life, only once, and your life can be taken away from you like that. And if legalizing marijuana creates even more deaths of innocent people, I do not know how I could sleep at night knowing that I had made orphans just like that, how because I voted for legalization of marijuana that I had created fathers and mothers without a child. What I am saying here is that no good can come from legalizing a drug that impairs childrens ability to think, especially during school, and creates an addiction. Illegal marijuana is already popular, how popular would it be if it were legal? I can rest knowing that I try to higher the age limit of drinking and to lower the percentage of alcohol that can be in your system to drive.

Sukoi · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 1597 Location: Texakistan

tk750 wrote: Norrin Radd wrote: tk750 wrote: ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Are you kidding? I mean, I know that I'm new here but do you know what you are saying? Marijuana impairs brain cells causing users to be retarded and unfit for society (i.e. driving). It also creates an extreme addiction. Although cigarettes may be more addicting, it does not make you unfit for society (i.e. slowed reaction time). Also, alcohol is something that you need to take a lot of to get drunk (or at least you realize your limit). With marijuana, if you take (new user) 4 or 5 puffs, you are high. Think of it as a bad mix of alcohol and cigarettes. Would you really want such a substance to be legal? To have people driving in cars under this influence? Drunk driving is bad enough, I don't think we need to bombard this nation with more tragedies due to some selfish idiots who want to smoke pot.

P.S. It becomes "your problem" when some ***hole gets you, your friends, or your family hurt because he was high.

Have to say that is one of the most pathetic posts I have ever read.

Alcohol causes more deaths, more physical harm, more suffering, than ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED.

Listen, its not like the government just one day said hey, lets illegalize marijuana for the hell of it. Marijuana may cause few deaths but seriously one death is a tragedy enough. You may read accidents that say something somthing 4 killed and think to yourself, well it was only 4 people. Well think of the families, children, and friends. The real people who get hurt aren't the ones who died but the ones who lived to experience the tragedy. You get only one chance at life, only once, and your life can be taken away from you like that. And if legalizing marijuana creates even more deaths of innocent people, I do not know how I could sleep at night knowing that I had made orphans just like that, how because I voted for legalization of marijuana that I had created fathers and mothers without a child. What I am saying here is that no good can come from legalizing a drug that impairs childrens ability to think, especially during school, and creates an addiction. Illegal marijuana is already popular, how popular would it be if it were legal? I can rest knowing that I try to higher the age limit of drinking and to lower the percentage of alcohol that can be in your system to drive. You truly are clueless; look here: Why is Marijuana Illegal?

tk750 · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject:

You truly are clueless; look here:
http://www.well.com/user/woa/fspot.htm

:owned:

Norrin Radd · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 2930

tk750 wrote: Norrin Radd wrote: tk750 wrote: ProGunAmerican wrote: Why don't you want to just let people smoke pot?! Let them. It is their problem, not yours.

Are you kidding? I mean, I know that I'm new here but do you know what you are saying? Marijuana impairs brain cells causing users to be retarded and unfit for society (i.e. driving). It also creates an extreme addiction. Although cigarettes may be more addicting, it does not make you unfit for society (i.e. slowed reaction time). Also, alcohol is something that you need to take a lot of to get drunk (or at least you realize your limit). With marijuana, if you take (new user) 4 or 5 puffs, you are high. Think of it as a bad mix of alcohol and cigarettes. Would you really want such a substance to be legal? To have people driving in cars under this influence? Drunk driving is bad enough, I don't think we need to bombard this nation with more tragedies due to some selfish idiots who want to smoke pot.

P.S. It becomes "your problem" when some ***hole gets you, your friends, or your family hurt because he was high.

Have to say that is one of the most pathetic posts I have ever read.

Alcohol causes more deaths, more physical harm, more suffering, than ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED.

Listen, its not like the government just one day said hey, lets illegalize marijuana for the hell of it. Marijuana may cause few deaths but seriously one death is a tragedy enough. You may read accidents that say something somthing 4 killed and think to yourself, well it was only 4 people. Well think of the families, children, and friends. The real people who get hurt aren't the ones who died but the ones who lived to experience the tragedy. You get only one chance at life, only once, and your life can be taken away from you like that. And if legalizing marijuana creates even more deaths of innocent people, I do not know how I could sleep at night knowing that I had made orphans just like that, how because I voted for legalization of marijuana that I had created fathers and mothers without a child. What I am saying here is that no good can come from legalizing a drug that impairs childrens ability to think, especially during school, and creates an addiction. Illegal marijuana is already popular, how popular would it be if it were legal? I can rest knowing that I try to higher the age limit of drinking and to lower the percentage of alcohol that can be in your system to drive.

Look, you are new here and you seem to have a good heart, but you really need to educate yourself on an issue before you discuss it.

I am an opinionated jerk, but I back up my opinions with information.

I am a great researcher, not infallible, but a great researcher.

I have spent dozens of hours just verifying a single quote before.

I have probably 200 hours or more of research on hemp and marijuana.

I know more about this topic than I ever wanted to know, but because so many people have misconceptions about marijuana, I have spent a lot of time finding information which proves these misconcpetions wrong.

The only people who are against the legalization of marijuana are people who are too lazy to research the topic.

Period.

Sukoi · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 1597 Location: Texakistan

NortheastGuy wrote: Sukoi wrote: We are fighting the "LAW" because it's wrong and no one who uses cannabis is violating any "LAW" because said "LAW" is not constitutionally valid. Moreover, how does one use the government to rederess such "LAWS" if the government refuses to listen to and/or act on the will of their respective constituents? Since voting them out of office doesn't seem to do any good and since there is not an option for "None of the Above", what do you suggest that we do other than what is already being done?

Well damn, I apologize. I didn't realize the Supreme Court ruled our drug laws unconstitutional. Let me run out to the local supermarket to buy some weed to celebrate..

What? I can't? Ohhhhh, the Supreme Court HASN'T rules that the anti-drug laws are unconstitutional. So instead what you're saying is your own opinion.

And that "will" of respective constituents? Well, most people don't believe pot should be legalized. And if majority rules don't make you warm and fuzzy, you can sue to have the law repealed in the courts.

I do, however, want to correct something I said: There are times where laws can and should be broken - in particular, to save someone's life. People who looted in New Orleans to get food and water to survive should be off the hook. However, I wouldn't classify getting a joint to smoke with some buddies similar circumstances. For whatever reason, this has never, to my knowledge, been brought before the SCOTUS. And no, this is not simply my opinion; please point out exactly where the U.S. Constitution grants the government the authority to tell Americans or anyone else what substances they can and cannot ingest. Alcohol prohibition required an amendment in order to make it constitutional, so which amendment allows them to tell me which plants I may or may not ingest?

Sukoi · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 1597 Location: Texakistan

tk750 wrote: You truly are clueless; look here:
http://www.well.com/user/woa/fspot.htm

:owned: The information in your link comes from NIDA who along with the ONDCP are admitted and sanctioned liars: White House Gets Permission to Lie

Further, virtually every single claim made by these liars has been thoroughly debunked, some examples can be found here.

right back at ya'

Pimpkie_69 · Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 2022 Location: Toronto

Quote: Listen, its not like the government just one day said hey, lets illegalize marijuana for the hell of it. Marijuana may cause few deaths but seriously one death is a tragedy enough. You may read accidents that say something somthing 4 killed and think to yourself, well it was only 4 people. Well think of the families, children, and friends. The real people who get hurt aren't the ones who died but the ones who lived to experience the tragedy. You get only one chance at life, only once, and your life can be taken away from you like that. And if legalizing marijuana creates even more deaths of innocent people, I do not know how I could sleep at night knowing that I had made orphans just like that, how because I voted for legalization of marijuana that I had created fathers and mothers without a child. What I am saying here is that no good can come from legalizing a drug that impairs childrens ability to think, especially during school, and creates an addiction. Illegal marijuana is already popular, how popular would it be if it were legal? I can rest knowing that I try to higher the age limit of drinking and to lower the percentage of alcohol that can be in your system to drive.

You know what else would lessen the amount of crime and dangerous behavior in society?? If there were security cameras in everyone's home that are monitored by the government. People couldn't beat their wives to death, plot other murders or crimes, or do pretty much anything illegal, if they were being constantly watched by the government. Let's have flying robotic security cameras follow people wherever they go, watching their every move, and fire bullets at them if they commit a crime, or try to commit one. Let's do that, to help the numerous people whose lives would be saved by such a measure!! Who's with me!! DOWN WITH FREEDOM!!! F*CK MY RIGHT TO PRIVACY, LIBERTY, HELL, F*CK ALL MY RIGHTS, I WANT TO LESSEN THE NUMBER OF DEATHS BY LETTING THE GOVERNMENT PRY INTO EVERYONE'S LIVES!!!

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7542 Location: Montana

tk750 wrote:
Listen, its not like the government just one day said hey, lets illegalize marijuana for the hell of it. Marijuana may cause few deaths but seriously one death is a tragedy enough. You may read accidents that say something somthing 4 killed and think to yourself, well it was only 4 people. Well think of the families, children, and friends. The real people who get hurt aren't the ones who died but the ones who lived to experience the tragedy. You get only one chance at life, only once, and your life can be taken away from you like that. And if legalizing marijuana creates even more deaths of innocent people, I do not know how I could sleep at night knowing that I had made orphans just like that, how because I voted for legalization of marijuana that I had created fathers and mothers without a child. What I am saying here is that no good can come from legalizing a drug that impairs childrens ability to think, especially during school, and creates an addiction. Illegal marijuana is already popular, how popular would it be if it were legal? I can rest knowing that I try to higher the age limit of drinking and to lower the percentage of alcohol that can be in your system to drive.

How do you function with that mindset? The guilt and responsibily felt would be mindboggling.

Worry about your own choices and how they affect your life.

Let others worry about their choices and how they affect their lives.

People like you scare the crap out of me. You would take away all our personal freedoms to protect us from ourselves.

tk750 · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject:

I give up. You know what: SMOKE YOUR DAMN POT. FU*KIN POTHEADS! I don't need to rely on a substance to feel good. GO TO THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html

CLICK ON DRUGS IN YOUR HEAD

Sukoi · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 1597 Location: Texakistan

tk750 wrote: I give up. You know what: SMOKE YOUR DAMN POT. FU*KIN POTHEADS! I don't need to rely on a substance to feel good. GO TO THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html

CLICK ON DRUGS IN YOUR HEAD Wow, aren't you "all assuming", I haven't touched cannabis in sixteen years, so you can now get off of of your (so called) moral high ground and come back to the reality that cannabis has been used completely safely for thousands of years and will be used int the future for more and I'd like for you to prove to me that there is a plant that is safer, more beneficial and more nutritious to humans than cannabis is. I'll be waiting...

tk750 · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject:

Sukoi wrote: tk750 wrote: I give up. You know what: SMOKE YOUR DAMN POT. FU*KIN POTHEADS! I don't need to rely on a substance to feel good. GO TO THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html

CLICK ON DRUGS IN YOUR HEAD Wow, aren't you "all assuming", I haven't touched cannabis in sixteen years, so you can now get off of of your (so called) moral high ground and come back to the reality that cannabis has been used completely safely for thousands of years and will be used int the future for more and I'd like for you to prove to me that there is a plant that is safer, more beneficial and more nutritious to humans than cannabis is. I'll be waiting...

\/ The little squirrel explains my anger. Did you watch it? :ot:

Sukoi · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 1597 Location: Texakistan

tk750 wrote: Sukoi wrote: tk750 wrote: I give up. You know what: SMOKE YOUR DAMN POT. FU*KIN POTHEADS! I don't need to rely on a substance to feel good. GO TO THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html

CLICK ON DRUGS IN YOUR HEAD Wow, aren't you "all assuming", I haven't touched cannabis in sixteen years, so you can now get off of of your (so called) moral high ground and come back to the reality that cannabis has been used completely safely for thousands of years and will be used int the future for more and I'd like for you to prove to me that there is a plant that is safer, more beneficial and more nutritious to humans than cannabis is. I'll be waiting...

\/ The little squirrel explains my anger. Did you watch it? :ot: Yes, I've seen it before and I can certainly understand your anger; I'd be angry too if I had to have a cartoon squirrel express my opinion. Perhaps you should consult the flying elephant as well, you know, to get a well rounded opinion...