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Corocotta · Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Stockholm

Any one heard about this prophecy? What do you think?

http://al-islam.org/mahdi/nontl/Toc.htm

Alexander The Great · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject:

Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

Corocotta · Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Stockholm

Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

fourtysixandtwo · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject:

Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

:roll:

Alexander The Great · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:03 am Post subject:

Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

If the west will answer their terrorism they will stop believing it...

Corocotta · Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Stockholm

Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

If the west will answer their terrorism they will stop believing it...

Not just terrorists belive in this prophecy but mostly all muslims.

Alexander The Great · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:51 am Post subject:

Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

If the west will answer their terrorism they will stop believing it...

Not just terrorists belive in this prophecy but mostly all muslims.

So, their ophory will be shattered one day, I hope I'll get to see it.

Nico · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 10528

Alexander The Great wrote:

So, their ophory will be shattered one day, I hope I'll get to see it.

You just have to tell me what this word means :think: :)

Bicofborg · Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Cydonia

Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

If the west will answer their terrorism they will stop believing it...

Not just terrorists belive in this prophecy but mostly all muslims.

So, their ophory will be shattered one day, I hope I'll get to see it.

They way the jews shattered there own future by not excepting the saviour, all the work God did, all the information and help he gave the Jewish people and then they ignore his son. That is shattering:)

logic-rules · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1795 Location: MINNEAPOLIS

actually i believe it is the twelver shias, not all muslims

Alexander The Great · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject:

Bicofborg wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

If the west will answer their terrorism they will stop believing it...

Not just terrorists belive in this prophecy but mostly all muslims.

So, their ophory will be shattered one day, I hope I'll get to see it.

They way the jews shattered there own future by not excepting the saviour, all the work God did, all the information and help he gave the Jewish people and then they ignore his son. That is shattering:)

Well, so how and why did the Jews survived from 1250 BC to now?

John · Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 22860

I think that in some strange way...these prophecies will be fulfilled in the antiChrist AND at the same time the antiChrist will meet the expectations of the Jews. He will bring a "peace" to these people....for a short time.

I think liberal Christians and prolly Catholics will accept this guy as the Messiah too.

StarsNstripes · Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 723

Alexander The Great wrote: Bicofborg wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Corocotta wrote: Alexander The Great wrote: Honest - that he's crazy, exactly as the one he descends from.

For sure, but muslims belive in this BS :?

If the west will answer their terrorism they will stop believing it...

Not just terrorists belive in this prophecy but mostly all muslims.

So, their ophory will be shattered one day, I hope I'll get to see it.

They way the jews shattered there own future by not excepting the saviour, all the work God did, all the information and help he gave the Jewish people and then they ignore his son. That is shattering:)

Well, so how and why did the Jews survived from 1250 BC to now?

That poster was disgustingly ignorant. Any Catholic will tell you that reguardless of faith you can be saved.

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

John wrote: I think that in some strange way...these prophecies will be fulfilled in the antiChrist AND at the same time the antiChrist will meet the expectations of the Jews. He will bring a "peace" to these people....for a short time.

I think liberal Christians and prolly Catholics will accept this guy as the Messiah too.

Could Mahdi and Jesus be the same person?

There are similarities between Christianity and Islam on this issue: For example Islam also talks about "Dajjal" (the "anti-Christ") just like the Christianity! :think:

Blogotron · Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 675 Location: Seattle

argh.

Jesus and the Mahdi are not the same person. Jesus presages the Mahdi in the End Times although the Mahdi presents the same principle of returning the world to righteousness.

It is strange that even though Jesus of Nazareth is not respected as Divine (but as Second among the Prophets, big Mo' being First) he is supposed to return to Earth. Why? not even Mohammad returns. Why Jesus?

In any case this is not a "nutty" belief, nor is it only held by the most radical of Muslims. Nearly all sects of Islam believe in the Mahdi though he takes various forms. In Sunni Islam they await the Mahdi, in the various Shi'a sects the mahdi has either already arrived or is waiting in seclusion (occulted Imamate), For the Druze ibn Daruzi died but will return and for the Bahais ( an Ex-Muslim faith) beleive that the Mahdi was replaced with the Bab, or Doorway ( basically a Messiah Figure that oens the doorway to Heaven).

I can reccomend several good books about Islamic faith written froman academic point of view. Being a Christian myself I am very wary of proselytization attempts.

pharaoh · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:53 am Post subject:

Quote: It is strange that even though Jesus of Nazareth is not respected as Divine (but as Second among the Prophets, big Mo' being First) he is supposed to return to Earth. Why? not even Mohammad returns. Why Jesus?

Because Jesus didnt die as Christians think and all humans must die.Jesus when he returns will tell everyone that he never said he was god or his son and that he always was a muslim like all prophets before him.

nava · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 11

I've heard that when imam Mehdi comes there will only be 300 people on earth and he will come when the world is classless, where everyone in the world is equal, money and power won't be important anymore, no rascism, no nuclear bomb, no weapons, you won't hear in the newspaper that ...........has comited suicide, no more hatred and homeland will mean the whole world.

pharaoh · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:44 am Post subject:

nava wrote: I've heard that when imam Mehdi comes there will only be 300 people on earth and he will come when the world is classless, where everyone in the world is equal, money and power won't be important anymore, no rascism, no nuclear bomb, no weapons, you won't hear in the newspaper that ...........has comited suicide, no more hatred and homeland will mean the whole world.

300 people left on earth??
Nah I never heard about that.
The whole thing about Imam el Mehdi could be just a myth, I am not sure.
But yes there will be time where money wont be important anymore and there wont be any starvations and food will be everywhere but that will come after one hell of bloodshed.

nava · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 11

pharaoh wrote: nava wrote: I've heard that when imam Mehdi comes there will only be 300 people on earth and he will come when the world is classless, where everyone in the world is equal, money and power won't be important anymore, no rascism, no nuclear bomb, no weapons, you won't hear in the newspaper that ...........has comited suicide, no more hatred and homeland will mean the whole world.

300 people left on earth??
Nah I never heard about that.
The whole thing about Imam el Mehdi could be just a myth, I am not sure.
But yes there will be time where money wont be important anymore and there wont be any starvations and food will be everywhere but that will come after one hell of bloodshed.

if everyone sits and expects that it comes to them, yeah, but if anyone feels a little resposiblity, no I think it will come sooner. After all, God calls the human being it's represantive on earth but I don't think anyone sees themselves as that.

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: John wrote: I think that in some strange way...these prophecies will be fulfilled in the antiChrist AND at the same time the antiChrist will meet the expectations of the Jews. He will bring a "peace" to these people....for a short time.

I think liberal Christians and prolly Catholics will accept this guy as the Messiah too.

Could Mahdi and Jesus be the same person?

There are similarities between Christianity and Islam on this issue: For example Islam also talks about "Dajjal" (the "anti-Christ") just like the Christianity! :think:

They have it backwards.