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[Suleiman the Magnificent]

This is my first post here at these forums.

To spur some discussion in this particular forum I will gladly answer any questions any of you have about Islam.

[Duchifas]

Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: This is my first post here at these forums.

To spur some discussion in this particular forum I will gladly answer any questions any of you have about Islam.

Tell us about jihad.

[Suleiman the Magnificent]

Duchifas wrote: Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: This is my first post here at these forums.

To spur some discussion in this particular forum I will gladly answer any questions any of you have about Islam.

Tell us about jihad.

Jihad means to strugge in the name of Allah. It doesn't mean to kill western infidels or something just as ridiculous. So that could mean fighting for truth, justice, condemning terrorist attacks, etc.

It even states in the Qur'an that you should be peaceful to all those that are peaceful and should only become hostile when someone initiates hostilites against you.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)

But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

The Jihad verses in the Qur'an refer to a time when the pagans were oppressing and initiating hostilities towards the Muslims.

[Duchifas]

Interesting take. So what do you suppose are the root causes behind the apparent hijacking of such peaceful Islamic principles to perpetuate terrorism. After all, Al Qaeda and Hamas, etc, also use the Koran and Islam to promote terrorism and carnage. What is the reason for such radically different interpretations? And which do you see as the more dominant in the Muslim world?

Thanks.

[Achilles The Myrmidon]

Why you turn Churches into mosques?

[Suleiman the Magnificent]

Duchifas wrote: Interesting take. So what do you suppose are the root causes behind the apparent hijacking of such peaceful Islamic principles to perpetuate terrorism. After all, Al Qaeda and Hamas, etc, also use the Koran and Islam to promote terrorism and carnage. What is the reason for such radically different interpretations? And which do you see as the more dominant in the Muslim world?

Thanks.

Well, one could take the verses of the "Jihad" verses of the Qu'ran and apply them to today, even though they shouldn't. Most of what they say is taken out of context. The Qu'ran forbid's the killing of innocent's.

I think that these groups are so fed up and angry at the West (including Israel) that they are willing to resort to unlawful violence and their excuse is their duty to Allah. Most of these Muslims just want to set-up Taliban type governments and are really going against what Islam teaches.

I think that most Muslims are peaceful and want nothing to do with the extremists. It's only that the extremists have a louder voice and are so radical that they overshadow the real Muslims that just want peace and justice.

[Suleiman the Magnificent]

Achilles The Myrmidon wrote: Why you turn Churches into mosques?

If you could give me an example? I don't doubt you, though.

If Muslims converted Churches into mosques than that goes against what Islam teaches because it clearly states in the Qu'ran that we have to respect Christians and Jews.

[Achilles The Myrmidon]

Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: Achilles The Myrmidon wrote: Why you turn Churches into mosques?

If you could give me an example? I don't doubt you, though.

If Muslims converted Churches into mosques than that goes against what Islam teaches because it clearly states in the Qu'ran that we have to respect Christians and Jews. Turkey and the occupied by the turks norther part of Cyprus.They turn most of the Churches into mosques.The greatest examble is Agia Sofia...

[Duchifas]

Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: Duchifas wrote: Interesting take. So what do you suppose are the root causes behind the apparent hijacking of such peaceful Islamic principles to perpetuate terrorism. After all, Al Qaeda and Hamas, etc, also use the Koran and Islam to promote terrorism and carnage. What is the reason for such radically different interpretations? And which do you see as the more dominant in the Muslim world?

Thanks.

Well, one could take the verses of the "Jihad" verses of the Qu'ran and apply them to today, even though they shouldn't. Most of what they say is taken out of context. The Qu'ran forbid's the killing of innocent's.

I think that these groups are so fed up and angry at the West (including Israel) that they are willing to resort to unlawful violence and their excuse is their duty to Allah. Most of these Muslims just want to set-up Taliban type governments and are really going against what Islam teaches.

I think that most Muslims are peaceful and want nothing to do with the extremists. It's only that the extremists have a louder voice and are so radical that they overshadow the real Muslims that just want peace and justice.

So how come the real Muslims don't get a louder voice for themselves? What's stopping them?

[Ananda Lee]

I've heard that Muslims are against translating the Qu'ran into foreign languages because they're afraid the message will be lost in translation. (I'm not sure my sources are reliable, though.) if that's true, what's the reasoning?

[Locke25]

Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: Achilles The Myrmidon wrote: Why you turn Churches into mosques?

If you could give me an example? I don't doubt you, though.

If Muslims converted Churches into mosques than that goes against what Islam teaches because it clearly states in the Qu'ran that we have to respect Christians and Jews.



:-D

[Chris29]

Ananda Lee wrote: I've heard that Muslims are against translating the Qu'ran into foreign languages because they're afraid the message will be lost in translation. (I'm not sure my sources are reliable, though.) if that's true, what's the reasoning?

well the issue arises because the word given to Mohammed was given in Arabic, translating this word requires a translation by a human and this would in a sense allow for interpretation by humans and taking away from the true word of god.

[Chris29]

Duchifas wrote: So how come the real Muslims don't get a louder voice for themselves? What's stopping them?

who says there not getting louder or that they weren't louder in the first place. If no one sends this message to us then it doesn't really matter then does it? The media would not gain anything from displaying peacful muslims, who wants to see that?

[Chris29]

Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: This is my first post here at these forums.

To spur some discussion in this particular forum I will gladly answer any questions any of you have about Islam.

It is good to have a muslim here to really display what I like to think of as true Islam. Unfortunately many muslims have been given a bad name for political reasons and this religion that profeses peace has been viewed to profess violence. Thanks for being willing to do such a thing :-D

[David]

Duchifas wrote:
So how come the real Muslims don't get a louder voice for themselves? What's stopping them?



http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31984

[Suleiman the Magnificent]

Duchifas wrote: Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: Duchifas wrote: Interesting take. So what do you suppose are the root causes behind the apparent hijacking of such peaceful Islamic principles to perpetuate terrorism. After all, Al Qaeda and Hamas, etc, also use the Koran and Islam to promote terrorism and carnage. What is the reason for such radically different interpretations? And which do you see as the more dominant in the Muslim world?

Thanks.

Well, one could take the verses of the "Jihad" verses of the Qu'ran and apply them to today, even though they shouldn't. Most of what they say is taken out of context. The Qu'ran forbid's the killing of innocent's.

I think that these groups are so fed up and angry at the West (including Israel) that they are willing to resort to unlawful violence and their excuse is their duty to Allah. Most of these Muslims just want to set-up Taliban type governments and are really going against what Islam teaches.

I think that most Muslims are peaceful and want nothing to do with the extremists. It's only that the extremists have a louder voice and are so radical that they overshadow the real Muslims that just want peace and justice.

So how come the real Muslims don't get a louder voice for themselves? What's stopping them?

They do have a voice - it's just that no one listens to them. Everyone pays attention to minorty of fundamentalists because they are the most extreme and volatile.

[Suleiman the Magnificent]

Achilles The Myrmidon wrote: Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: Achilles The Myrmidon wrote: Why you turn Churches into mosques?

If you could give me an example? I don't doubt you, though.

If Muslims converted Churches into mosques than that goes against what Islam teaches because it clearly states in the Qu'ran that we have to respect Christians and Jews. Turkey and the occupied by the turks norther part of Cyprus.They turn most of the Churches into mosques.The greatest examble is Agia Sofia...

Yes, I know. It slipped my mind.

[anselfir]

Locke25 wrote: Suleiman the Magnificent wrote: Achilles The Myrmidon wrote: Why you turn Churches into mosques?

If you could give me an example? I don't doubt you, though.

If Muslims converted Churches into mosques than that goes against what Islam teaches because it clearly states in the Qu'ran that we have to respect Christians and Jews.



:-D Hagia Sophia...
:cry:

[Don Quixote]

Does God have a punishment for those who commit evil acts? If so, what is that punishment.

[Suleiman the Magnificent]

Don Quixote wrote: Does God have a punishment for those who commit evil acts? If so, what is that punishment.

Hell.