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John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 21926 Location: Minnesota

White Smoke Signals Election of Pope

Infinite911911 · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:42 am Post subject:

Nice!! History in the making. My church has another leader. :-D

SilveryMinnow · Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Posts: 3143 Location: Rio Grande River

Darn it. Was going to do an article on Vegas odds for pope.

Windy · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 3451 Location: Wolverhampton

Excellent and perhaps for the next pope they could choose someone who served in General Pinochet amry?

thundertaker · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject:

Windy wrote: Excellent and perhaps for the next pope they could choose someone who served in General Pinochet amry?

Well, they have been saying the next pope should be from South America.....

Windy · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 3451 Location: Wolverhampton

thundertaker wrote: Windy wrote: Excellent and perhaps for the next pope they could choose someone who served in General Pinochet amry?

Well, they have been saying the next pope should be from South America.....

Or Africa so they could try and get Mugabe!

The_Right_Honourable · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 682 Location: UK (mostly)

Heh. I certainly wouldnt have picked Ratzinger BUT he is 78. I geuss the discision is about continuity. Hopefully in 5-10 years well see a new more enlightened Papacy.

Windy · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 3451 Location: Wolverhampton

The_Right_Honourable wrote: Heh. I certainly wouldnt have picked Ratzinger BUT he is 78. I geuss the discision is about continuity. Hopefully in 5-10 years well see a new more enlightened Papacy.

LOL, sadly thats the best thing anyone can say about this guy. He'll die soon!

Gilbert1908 · Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 5355 Location: Boston, MA

I am trying to decide whether it is funny or pathetic that so many none Catholics are so critical of a faith they know and care so little about.

The_Right_Honourable · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 682 Location: UK (mostly)

Gilbert1908 wrote: I am trying to decide whether it is funny or pathetic that so many none Catholics are so critical of a faith they know and care so little about.

I know enough. Im a Chrisitian(technically) and Catholics are just silly christians all obsessed with tradition and ceremony and not with aleviating human misery...

The Pope is a political figure. Like your President or our Prime Minister. He is a man of great influence and therefore i care deeply about the man chosen for the job.

I wonder why they dont just spina bottle? Surely God would guide the discision? Why does man have to make the choice? How indirect does the old man want to be?

Windy · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 3451 Location: Wolverhampton

Gilbert1908 wrote: I am trying to decide whether it is funny or pathetic that so many none Catholics are so critical of a faith they know and care so little about.

When that Catholic Church is in a large way responsible for killing 85 million Africans then I would think its a good thing.

Gilbert1908 · Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 5355 Location: Boston, MA

Windy wrote: Gilbert1908 wrote: I am trying to decide whether it is funny or pathetic that so many none Catholics are so critical of a faith they know and care so little about.

When that Catholic Church is in a large way responsible for killing 85 million Africans then I would think its a good thing.

Tell me how the sexual revolution has benefitted society over the last 40 years.

Explain how premarital sex is a positive contribution to the world society?

How many of the Africans who have contracted AIDS are practicing Catholics?

It is not religion but lack of religion which has caused these problems.

Windy · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 3451 Location: Wolverhampton

No its the Catholic church telling people that condoms do not stop Aids that has helped this problem.
It is the Catholic church encouraging African governments to stop all sex education for it citizens that has only made this problem worse.

emmorris · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:00 am Post subject:

Windy wrote: No its the Catholic church telling people that condoms do not stop Aids that has helped this problem.

Condoms don't stop AIDS, they reduce the risk. Besides, most prostitutes are paid more if they don't insist on a condom, which I doubt even you can blame on the Vatican. :roll:

venator · Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 853 Location: New Europe

Windy wrote: No its the Catholic church telling people that condoms do not stop Aids that has helped this problem.
It is the Catholic church encouraging African governments to stop all sex education for it citizens that has only made this problem worse.

Dont be pathetic. :lol:
Condoms are not the solution to the AIDS problem.
Besides even if condoms were used - it certainly wouldnt mean that AIDS would be prevented from spreading. Condoms are barely a guarantee - there is always a risk.

:?

Windy · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 3451 Location: Wolverhampton

emmorris wrote: Windy wrote: No its the Catholic church telling people that condoms do not stop Aids that has helped this problem.

Condoms don't stop AIDS, they reduce the risk. Besides, most prostitutes are paid more if they don't insist on a condom, which I doubt even you can blame on the Vatican. :roll:

You can blame them for telling people condoms do nothing to stop AIDs and there are little holes which the AIDs virus can travel!

The_Right_Honourable · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 682 Location: UK (mostly)

Gilbert1908 wrote: Windy wrote: Gilbert1908 wrote: I am trying to decide whether it is funny or pathetic that so many none Catholics are so critical of a faith they know and care so little about.

When that Catholic Church is in a large way responsible for killing 85 million Africans then I would think its a good thing.

Tell me how the sexual revolution has benefitted society over the last 40 years.

People are now free to enjoy their lives. And thats what life is about. Having a f*cking good time! ^^
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Explain how premarital sex is a positive contribution to the world society?

Who does it hurt? If your not careful you can get pregnant or an infection but thats always been true. People have always f*cked. Its just that people stopped hiding it!
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How many of the Africans who have contracted AIDS are practicing Catholics?

It is not religion but lack of religion which has caused these problems.
No idea how many are catholics. But it must be a good few. Apparently its a big problem in Nigeria.

And Nigeria has no lack of religion or prayer but id still rather live in Europe!

emmorris · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject:

Windy wrote: emmorris wrote: Windy wrote: No its the Catholic church telling people that condoms do not stop Aids that has helped this problem.

Condoms don't stop AIDS, they reduce the risk. Besides, most prostitutes are paid more if they don't insist on a condom, which I doubt even you can blame on the Vatican. :roll:

You can blame them for telling people condoms do nothing to stop AIDs and there are little holes which the AIDs virus can travel!

True, but it still wouldn't be fair to blame the entire thing on the Vatican. Their position on birth control is outdated, but it doesn't look like this pope will do much to change it.

Windy · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 3451 Location: Wolverhampton

emmorris wrote: Windy wrote: emmorris wrote: Windy wrote: No its the Catholic church telling people that condoms do not stop Aids that has helped this problem.

Condoms don't stop AIDS, they reduce the risk. Besides, most prostitutes are paid more if they don't insist on a condom, which I doubt even you can blame on the Vatican. :roll:

You can blame them for telling people condoms do nothing to stop AIDs and there are little holes which the AIDs virus can travel!

True, but it still wouldn't be fair to blame the entire thing on the Vatican. Their position on birth control is outdated, but it doesn't look like this pope will do much to change it.

But they are in a large way responsible, its not that there position is outdated- if thats there believe then they are entitled to it- its the way they go out of their way to stop people learning about safe sex and spread lies about condoms.

Who knows how many millions of people would have been saved already if the people in Africa were at the very least premitted to know the truth about AIDs and how to protect themselves from it.
Instead we have the Vatican dictating what they can and can't know.

emmorris · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:

Windy wrote: emmorris wrote: Windy wrote: emmorris wrote: Windy wrote: No its the Catholic church telling people that condoms do not stop Aids that has helped this problem.

Condoms don't stop AIDS, they reduce the risk. Besides, most prostitutes are paid more if they don't insist on a condom, which I doubt even you can blame on the Vatican. :roll:

You can blame them for telling people condoms do nothing to stop AIDs and there are little holes which the AIDs virus can travel!

True, but it still wouldn't be fair to blame the entire thing on the Vatican. Their position on birth control is outdated, but it doesn't look like this pope will do much to change it.

But they are in a large way responsible, its not that there position is outdated- if thats there believe then they are entitled to it- its the way they go out of their way to stop people learning about safe sex and spread lies about condoms.

Who knows how many millions of people would have been saved already if the people in Africa were at the very least premitted to know the truth about AIDs and how to protect themselves from it.
Instead we have the Vatican dictating what they can and can't know.

While Catholism is spreading rapidly, the lack of knowledge can also be attributed to general ignorance. The Vatican may be powerful, but I doubt they are quite that powerful.