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thundertaker · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:05 am Post subject:

angusrae wrote: In reply to Windy no but then you Don't attack areas were you have support. The shame of Scotland is the fact that large numbers of Scots are s*cked into the Irish Question because of Family Links and Football. (Celtic & Rangers)

Why did they bomb Manchester (Large Irish community) then?

angusrae · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 974 Location: Falkirk Scotland

thundertaker wrote: angusrae wrote: In reply to Windy no but then you Don't attack areas were you have support. The shame of Scotland is the fact that large numbers of Scots are s*cked into the Irish Question because of Family Links and Football. (Celtic & Rangers)

Why did they bomb Manchester (Large Irish community) then? That's a question for their strategic planners but in my view you have to take a look at the religious make up of that Irish community and whether it was from Southern or Northern Ireland. Also with this community present an Irish accent would not be unusually making it easier to plant and detonate a bomb much like London. Also does that community support the Ongoing terrorist war. The Large Irish Communities in Glasgow and Liverpool are perceived to do this therefore are not considered targets by the bombers. Also most importantly a lot of the Irish emigres in the last 30 years have settled in Scotland, Liverpool and London While London as a seat of Government can never lose its target status no matter how many Irish settle there the same cannot be said of other places. And refresh my memory wasn,t there some sort of international event in Manchester at the time of the Bombing.

thundertaker · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:33 am Post subject:

They don't bomb Wales either. In their skewed thinking, it is the English who are responsible for what is wrong in northern ireland and they who deserve a headfull of hot shrapnel for walking past the wrong bin at the wrong time. I suspect they view Wales and Scotland as fellow Celts oppressed by the wicked, imperialist English, and so avoid bombing them out of a sense of 'celtic solidarity'.....

angusrae · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 974 Location: Falkirk Scotland

Probably true but that just goes to show the twisted logic of terrorists While i do wish to regain Scottish Independence neither the bullet or the bomb will achieve this in todays world. My point however was the assumption that only English people have been killed by the IRA or other republican paramilitaries. This is untrue as both Scots and Welsh men and women have been murdered by the IRA even if they were serving soldiers

President 2024 or beyond · Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Alabama usa

hello,
I'm new here but this thread is interesting, especially as I am leaving to go to northern Ireland tomorrow morning with my youth group. if no one minds I want to revisit some issues from further back on the thread. First I think the way this administration is handling the situation is as good as could be asked. They or we however you wish to say it are making it clear that we don't accept any terrorism even if it is Christian and not Muslim however while condemning it we don't get overly involved because Americans are for the most part left out of it, they aren't fighting us, they don't hate us, or at least they don't hate us as far as this topic is concerned. however to those say the statement is pointless I disagree because it brings American attention to the fact that they are terrorists and that will hurt their support here which is what our government should be doing, discourage private involvement without outlawing it. It's the perfect solution. Another thing is that by Westminster taking Seine Finn's paychecks it does little to affect them, they are the best funded party in the country, partly because of the illegal activity, but it does draw attention and cuts public support of the violence. It saddens me that such a great people and nation are so hung up on this religious/political dispute. I pray for a true revival in the nation, the best answer for the problem is an outpouring of the Love of almighty God,

anyway thats all the time I have I leave in a little while and need some sleep, thanks for letting me talk with you guys. be back in 8 days.
( by the way if anyone is wondering I'm about 75% Irish )

Ssushi · Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 7290

Quote: I pray for a true revival in the nation

The majority of people in the south want nothing to do with the north.

Quote: The best answer for the problem is an outpouring of the Love of almighty God,

What on earth are you banging on about? This is clearly not a practical answer to any of the problems...

kosmik_konstrukt · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject:

If I were the IRA, I would simply tell the U.S. envoy to kiss my Irish arse and mind thier own business. Who the hell is the U.S. to tell the IRA what to do. U.S.A. world police. :twisted:

angusrae · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 974 Location: Falkirk Scotland

kosmik_konstrukt wrote: If I were the IRA, I would simply tell the U.S. envoy to kiss my Irish arse and mind thier own business. Who the hell is the U.S. to tell the IRA what to do. U.S.A. world police. :twisted:

Just remember that a lot of American People funded a terrorist (i.e the IRA) organisation through groups like Noraid so if they use their influence to end a problem some of their citizens have contributed too fair play to them.

However they should go further and arrest those who give aid to Irish terrorists in the form of donations to NorAid. But if a group was to fund raise for a Islamic Group which was giving the money to the political wing of Hamas the would be arrested in a Heart beat.

thundertaker · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:

angusrae wrote: kosmik_konstrukt wrote: If I were the IRA, I would simply tell the U.S. envoy to kiss my Irish arse and mind thier own business. Who the hell is the U.S. to tell the IRA what to do. U.S.A. world police. :twisted:

Just remember that a lot of American People funded a terrorist (i.e the IRA) organisation through groups like Noraid so if they use their influence to end a problem some of their citizens have contributed too fair play to them.

However they should go further and arrest those who give aid to Irish terrorists in the form of donations to NorAid. But if a group was to fund raise for a Islamic Group which was giving the money to the political wing of Hamas the would be arrested in a Heart beat.

It has been a pretty crappy way to treat a country that is supposed to be America's greatest ally....... :evil:

Scribbler1 · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject:

thundertaker wrote: angusrae wrote: kosmik_konstrukt wrote: If I were the IRA, I would simply tell the U.S. envoy to kiss my Irish arse and mind thier own business. Who the hell is the U.S. to tell the IRA what to do. U.S.A. world police. :twisted:

Just remember that a lot of American People funded a terrorist (i.e the IRA) organisation through groups like Noraid so if they use their influence to end a problem some of their citizens have contributed too fair play to them.

However they should go further and arrest those who give aid to Irish terrorists in the form of donations to NorAid. But if a group was to fund raise for a Islamic Group which was giving the money to the political wing of Hamas the would be arrested in a Heart beat.

It has been a pretty crappy way to treat a country that is supposed to be America's greatest ally....... :evil: America's greatest ally is itself! This is the way of all countries where friendships are rooted in expediency.