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Anybody know of any sites where you can find out how specific countries feel about UN reform?

google has failed me so far :x

[shamus11]

Try one of my sites at
http://jamesbredin.tripod.com/numberfour/id16.html

[Niccolo Machiavelli]

The UN doesnt need reform but rather to be abolished.

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Niccolo Machiavelli wrote: The UN doesnt need reform but rather to be abolished.

hey, this is going to be real relevant to my paper. thanks for ur contribution. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Chris29]

well specific country positions can be found simply by going to the UN homepage, go to member states then select home pages of the permanent missions. Simply select your country or countries and go from there.

Most countries will have statements especially after the High Panel Report and Kofi Annans UN reform proposals. Some countries even have there own pages on UN reform

[Canada_Rocks]

ebolish the UN..are you joking. The UN is needed to protect countires that dont spend a mega-ba-trillion dollars on defence...
I say reform it, If I see another rwanda happen again I'll barf.

[RM88]

Canada_rocks wrote: ebolish the UN..are you joking. The UN is needed to protect countires that dont spend a mega-ba-trillion dollars on defence...
I say reform it, If I see another rwanda happen again I'll barf.

The UN is the worst organization on the planet. Other countries should defend themselves instead of relying on others.

[Canada_Rocks]

Yeah, or create allies amoungst themselves like canada and the US, Us and britian etc etc...The UN gets nothing done..like I said, maybe the Iraq war was a bit iffy, but in stances like the rwanda massacre, how can the UN not HELP

[Eton]

RM88 wrote:

The UN is the worst organization on the planet. Other countries should defend themselves instead of relying on others.

That kind of mentality brought war to europe for a thousand years. f**k that, the UN isn't perfect but it is better than international anarchy.

[Canada_Rocks]

ETON, I tend to agree with you, but I am for reform. What ahs the UN seriously done in the past decade. It seems to just stand by and lets stuff happen

[Secondary Oak]

Eton wrote: RM88 wrote:

The UN is the worst organization on the planet. Other countries should defend themselves instead of relying on others.

That kind of mentality brought war to europe for a thousand years. f**k that, the UN isn't perfect but it is better than international anarchy.
Agreed*.

Canada_rocks wrote: ETON, I tend to agree with you, but I am for reform. What ahs the UN seriously done in the past decade. It seems to just stand by and lets stuff happen
And agreed again*.

I see the basic concept of the UN as a very positive one; it's just that the implementation pretty much s*cks.



*Actually, agreeing with Canada_rocks recursively means I agree with Eton , so I didn't need to write it twice :wink:

[Eton]

Canada_rocks wrote: ETON, I tend to agree with you, but I am for reform. What ahs the UN seriously done in the past decade. It seems to just stand by and lets stuff happen

Why does it stand by? Because the permanent five veto policies that are against their interests. Don't blame the UN blame the big five. The reform must come from that quater, e.g. strip them of the veto powers.

[RM88]

Eton wrote: Canada_rocks wrote: ETON, I tend to agree with you, but I am for reform. What ahs the UN seriously done in the past decade. It seems to just stand by and lets stuff happen

Why does it stand by? Because the permanent five veto policies that are against their interests. Don't blame the UN blame the big five. The reform must come from that quater, e.g. strip them of the veto powers.

They deserve their veto powers and permanent seats on the security council, because they did when the war, and they are some of the most powerful nations on the planet. Because of that they must remain in a position of power to affectively monitor the world.

[Canada_Rocks]

RM88, that is why stuff doesnt get down, becasue its always in atleast one nations best interest not to act.

[Eton]

Exactly, and I believe John bolton is on record as saying that the principle of humanitarian intervention is insufficient reason to stop a genocide like Rwanda!!!

[Canada_Rocks]

rewanda was rediculous....but it was a cowardice act by belgium, america, france and others...and I as a Canadian must admitt fault becasue we are afterall a g7 nation and shouldve asted.

[RM88]

The United States does not need the UN. The United States has enough power to "survive" on its own.

[Canada_Rocks]

Blah..do we really need ot listen to that nonsence,,I know your not talking about economic power, millitary wise YES. But the UN is aslo a friendship committee, you know back when other countries liked America and didnt want them dead.

[RM88]

Canada_rocks wrote: Blah..do we really need ot listen to that nonsence,,I know your not talking about economic power, millitary wise YES. But the UN is aslo a friendship committee, you know back when other countries liked America and didnt want them dead.

Now countries do not like the United States, but lets see how nice other countries are when they need something from the United States like they always do.

[Canada_Rocks]

Yeah I know countries that need something from the United states..Trillians of dollars that america owes.