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CrossfireBear
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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wieno wrote: Most civilians killed in Iraq were killed by terrorists from outside of Iraq. And please don't try and be witty by saying "outside terrorists? You mean George Bush?" It makes you look bad.
The best publicized study suggests more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians were killed by Coalition troops. Hence, the terrorist George W. Bush, who killed thousands more in Afghanistan.
On top of that, the U.S. can even take part of the blame for civilians killed by other terrorists. After all, we destabilized the country and were totally unprepared to "manage the peace."
And please don't argue with me; you'll only look like a fool. |
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wieno
Joined: 20 Nov 2004
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: wieno wrote: Most civilians killed in Iraq were killed by terrorists from outside of Iraq. And please don't try and be witty by saying "outside terrorists? You mean George Bush?" It makes you look bad.
The best publicized study suggests more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians were killed by Coalition troops. Hence, the terrorist George W. Bush, who killed thousands more in Afghanistan.
On top of that, the U.S. can even take part of the blame for civilians killed by other terrorists. After all, we destabilized the country and were totally unprepared to "manage the peace."
And please don't argue with me; you'll only look like a fool.
Those studies say that 100,000 civilians have been killed. Most of these are from car bombings etc., not from coalition soldiers. And using the same argument about how it's America's fault that there are terrorists, you can use the same argument to say that the beheadings in Iraq are also America's fault because they did not comply with terrorist demands. If your same argument were applied to a situation involving a police force and a hostage taker, you could say that it's the police's fault for not leaving the crime scene, and trying to arrest the criminal. Your argument doesn't stand in that situation and it doesn't stand in Iraq. As fore me arguing with you, if you don't want any argument, then leave Political Crossfire, post your point on a word processor and you can feel happy when nobody argues with you. I wonder who will look like a fool then? |
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CrossfireBear
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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wieno wrote: Those studies say that 100,000 civilians have been killed. Most of these are from car bombings etc., not from coalition soldiers.
Actually, I believe the study said most were killed by helicopter gunships. I don't think Al Qaeda is making heavy use of Apache helicopters.
Quote: And using the same argument about how it's America's fault that there are terrorists, you can use the same argument to say that the beheadings in Iraq are also America's fault because they did not comply with terrorist demands.
Let me make it real simple for ya: Terrorists weren't running Iraq before the "Coalition" invaded. We destabilized Iraq. Bush invaded when he didn't have a clue what he was going to do after he achieved his little "victory."
Quote: If your same argument were applied to a situation involving a police force and a hostage taker, you could say that it's the police's fault for not leaving the crime scene, and trying to arrest the criminal.
No, police SHOULD target criminals; that's their job. It's NOT our job to invade sovereign nations, then deal with the chaos that's certain to follow. |
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Golddave
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: wieno wrote: Most civilians killed in Iraq were killed by terrorists from outside of Iraq. And please don't try and be witty by saying "outside terrorists? You mean George Bush?" It makes you look bad.
The best publicized study suggests more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians were killed by Coalition troops. Hence, the terrorist George W. Bush, who killed thousands more in Afghanistan.
On top of that, the U.S. can even take part of the blame for civilians killed by other terrorists. After all, we destabilized the country and were totally unprepared to "manage the peace."
And please don't argue with me; you'll only look like a fool.
Well I actually went to Iraq and your figures are dead wrong.
George Bush is not a terrorist and you need to be deported for your unpatriotic views. You call it managing the peace, what a load of s**t, what peace? you have to kill these motherf***ers before you can get peace. |
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CrossfireBear
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Golddave wrote: Well I actually went to Iraq and your figures are dead wrong.
Yeah, I'll bet you did. There are a lot of jouranlists and Red Cross workers who have spent more time in Iraq than you have and agree with me.
Quote: George Bush is not a terrorist and you need to be deported for your unpatriotic views.
You need to move to Texas, where you can find other people who share your views. |
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Golddave
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: Well I actually went to Iraq and your figures are dead wrong.
Yeah, I'll bet you did. There are a lot of jouranlists and Red Cross workers who have spent more time in Iraq than you have and agree with me.
Quote: George Bush is not a terrorist and you need to be deported for your unpatriotic views.
You need to move to Texas, where you can find other people who share your views.
Righto Frasier Crane, I spent 6 months there in 2003, six months more hten you did. I would rather live in Texas then rainy day sitonitattle. |
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CrossfireBear
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did. |
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Golddave
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:43 am Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
I did, I was with the Australian Security Detachment, Jabiraya district, Baghdad. |
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ChaseNorth
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:51 am Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
CrossfireBear you are in no position to question Golddave's service record. |
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CrossfireBear
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:03 am Post subject: |
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ChaseNorth wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
CrossfireBear you are in no position to question Golddave's service record.
Sorry, as a survivor of the Bataan death march, I was just a little skeptical. |
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Golddave
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:09 am Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: ChaseNorth wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
CrossfireBear you are in no position to question Golddave's service record.
Sorry, as a survivor of the Bataan death march, I was just a little skeptical.
Of the F**K** what? |
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DEFCON 1
Joined: 01 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:26 am Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: ChaseNorth wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
CrossfireBear you are in no position to question Golddave's service record.
Sorry, as a survivor of the Bataan death march, I was just a little skeptical.
Sure...that would make you about 90, Frankenstein. From your pick on your web site I would say that the only thing you survived was your own autopsy. |
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2ndAcr
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GoldDave,
You can move to Texas any time you want. We know how to treat hanky stomping liberals like him. The only way they can spout the crap they do is on the internet. Try and spout that crap to the wrong person and they would get the crap kicked out of them.
Oh, and to the fruit on page one who wished someone would blow out MY Presidents brains. Before that ever happens, I hope you make your peace with god, because you will have a war on your hands before we get the body back. And it will be a scorched earth campaign the likes of which the world has never seen.
F**KING NUTCASES. |
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CrossfireBear
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:52 am Post subject: |
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2ndAcr wrote: GoldDave,
You can move to Texas any time you want.
No he can't; he has to get past Homeland Security first.
Quote: We know how to treat hanky stomping liberals like him. The only way they can spout the crap they do is on the internet. Try and spout that crap to the wrong person and they would get the crap kicked out of them.
Actually, I've been spouting crap in public for nearly a decade - and if anyone laid a finger on me, I'd break their legs off and shove'em up you know what.
Quote: Oh, and to the fruit on page one who wished someone would blow out MY Presidents brains.
What? How did I miss THAT post? What's his name - I want to be his Buddy.
Quote: Before that ever happens, I hope you make your peace with god, because you will have a war on your hands before we get the body back. And it will be a scorched earth campaign the likes of which the world has never seen.
You're going to use flamethrowers??? |
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DavidXV
Joined: 01 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:50 am Post subject: |
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wieno wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: ChaseNorth wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: ChaseNorth wrote: Symoblism?
And what would you do about people who ACTUALLY target and slaughter the innocent by the millions?
You're just going to leave them alone?
Pol pot, Hilter, Ida Amin, Ceausescu...
What is it, exactly, that liberals do when they aren't giving stern lectures to the leader of the free world in the name of symbolism?
Do liberals actual try to make the world a better place? Or do they just sit around and talk about how everyone else is doing it wrong? Mluck bgudnik frigdshmul kvirpin shmulck!
Biggest living butcher?
You have any evidence to back that up? Euk euuk gnee shplooog. Ooh ooh eeh eeh eeh ah ah ah hah. Werpt werppt yipity yipiy ipty aaaabpob ahrgh! Shfriiiinng? Shmmong shmmaung? Yeeep?
Most civilians killed in Iraq were killed by terrorists from outside of Iraq. And please don't try and be witty by saying "outside terrorists? You mean George Bush?" It makes you look bad. Welcome to the forum, wieno. Glad you and the other Canadians joined. 8) |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:56 am Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: ChaseNorth wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
CrossfireBear you are in no position to question Golddave's service record.
Sorry, as a survivor of the Bataan death march, I was just a little skeptical. :lol: :lol: :lol:
WTF? |
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DavidXV
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:20 am Post subject: |
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cap'n queasy wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: ChaseNorth wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
CrossfireBear you are in no position to question Golddave's service record.
Sorry, as a survivor of the Bataan death march, I was just a little skeptical. :lol: :lol: :lol:
WTF? Could be a typo, I think he meant Batman. |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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FrankMann wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: ChaseNorth wrote: CrossfireBear wrote: Golddave wrote: I spent 6 months there in 2003.
Yeah, I'll bet you did.
CrossfireBear you are in no position to question Golddave's service record.
Sorry, as a survivor of the Bataan death march, I was just a little skeptical. :lol: :lol: :lol:
WTF? Could be a typo, I think he meant Batman. :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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Golddave
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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2ndAcr wrote: GoldDave,
You can move to Texas any time you want. We know how to treat hanky stomping liberals like him. The only way they can spout the crap they do is on the internet. Try and spout that crap to the wrong person and they would get the crap kicked out of them.
Oh, and to the fruit on page one who wished someone would blow out MY Presidents brains. Before that ever happens, I hope you make your peace with god, because you will have a war on your hands before we get the body back. And it will be a scorched earth campaign the likes of which the world has never seen.
F**KING NUTCASES.
Cheers mate, I'll pack my steel capped head kicking boots. |
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Golddave
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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CrossfireBear wrote: 2ndAcr wrote: GoldDave,
You can move to Texas any time you want.
No he can't; he has to get past Homeland Security first.
Quote: We know how to treat hanky stomping liberals like him. The only way they can spout the crap they do is on the internet. Try and spout that crap to the wrong person and they would get the crap kicked out of them.
Actually, I've been spouting crap in public for nearly a decade - and if anyone laid a finger on me, I'd break their legs off and shove'em up you know what.
Quote: Oh, and to the fruit on page one who wished someone would blow out MY Presidents brains.
What? How did I miss THAT post? What's his name - I want to be his Buddy.
Quote: Before that ever happens, I hope you make your peace with god, because you will have a war on your hands before we get the body back. And it will be a scorched earth campaign the likes of which the world has never seen.
You're going to use flamethrowers???
I think you confuse your abilities with your ambitions, if you ripped my legs off I'd paddle your stupid head with them. |
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