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[shamus11]

George Bush visit to Canada

By

James Bredin


The upcoming George Bush visit should be a wake-up call,
Trapped by the socialist-Liberals as we just crawl,
Frown on security-economic integration,
Liberals prefer Kyoto and United Nations.

They are leery of strong leadership such as George Bush,
Who won’t accept their propaganda and they can’t push,
Prefer some wishy-washy weasel type of guy,
Where refugees and terrorists could easily defy.

They want to call all international socialist shots,
And we are all going to Africa to help the have-nots,
Or maybe Haiti because they may need help too,
While we the poor people don’t seem to have a clue.

And climate change is coming and the sky could fall,
All refugees are in at the next amnesty call,
Socialist goody-two-shoe types with all of their kin,
Their same-sex stuff will pass soon but we don’t know when.

But why not an improvement on our NAFTA type merger,
Something the Liberals look on as perjure,
Where all our people could move or work here or there,
But this would put the Liberals in deep despair.


Tuesday, November 16, 2004

http://jamesbredin0.tripod.com/numberten/id10.html

[timmtc]

Incase this poet or whatever he is hasn't noticed, the Liberals are the minority government. The opposition is the conservitaves, its not like all of canada is filled with liberal tree huggers.

[D@N]

For all the conservatives in Canada there are just as many socialists.

If Canada Ever goes conservative, I'll start rallying for western separation :lol: .

[timmtc]

Good, because federally the west votes conservative.

[D@N]

Is there a chart on how the ridings voted? Im not being sarcasitic, I can't remember.

In BC at least the it was ether NDP of liberal, most of the NDP seats can from BC.

[timmtc]

Here D@N, im actually doing a research paper right now on voter turnout, so I had this link handy:

http://www.nodice.ca/election2004/seatcounts.html

British Columbia
Con 22
Lib 8
NDP 5

Praries (Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta)
Con 46
Lib 6
NDP 4

Thats a pretty large mandate on the west here. If my math is correct, for the west it is

Conservative - 68
Liberal - 14
New Democrat Party - 9

[D@N]

thanks, wow, you were right about the conservatives. then how come they have such a weak provincial party in BC. It's between the lib's and NDP. Or is it the fact that Liberal is so business friendly and so conservative acting that they stole the Conservatives thunder?

[timmtc]

D@N I think the liberals are basically right of center, or center. Gordon Campbell is economically conservative at least. There hasnt been a conservative candidate in BC in.....I cant even remember :( .

[Roman Elazar]

To tell you the truth i wouldn't mind seeing a right-wing trend up here in Canada.

My riding elected a conservative by a slim majority.

[timmtc]

Roman what city do you live in?

[Nico]

I would be worried, don't the words 'visit' and 'invade' have the same meaning in neocon-speak? :P

[Saviz]

What is it in tis country, like 70% are centrist-lefts? Thats fine with me.

[D@N]

timmtc wrote: D@N I think the liberals are basically right of center, or center. Gordon Campbell is economically conservative at least. There hasnt been a conservative candidate in BC in.....I cant even remember :( .

What about the Social Credit Party, well they weren't exactly conservative, they were right wing. or a social right wing i guess.

Scary side note, the original Creator of the party, "bible Bill" was a fascist, and called the help of the English Nazi party to help him run when he got elected in Alberta in the 30's. :shock:

[timmtc]

I think the Social Credit party had some type of scandal and basically went down from there, not too sure though. I remember Bible Bill from my poli sci lecture this semester, I dont think he was a facist but he was definatly not right in the head.

[D@N]

timmtc wrote: I think the Social Credit party had some type of scandal and basically went down from there, not too sure though. I remember Bible Bill from my poli sci lecture this semester, I dont think he was a facist but he was definatly not right in the head.

I just covered it in Socials. thats what I was taught anyways, mabye he wasn't a facist, but I heard he wanted to run Alberta that way.

Yea, Social Credit is dead, good riddence I say. they crashed in thr early 90's I think.

[CrossfireBear]

shamus11 wrote:
Liberals prefer Kyoto and United Nations.


Not just liberals; I'm one of many independents who prefer Kyoto and the UN.

Quote:
They are leery of strong leadership such as George Bush<snip>


Oops, sorry - I didn't realize this was just a joke.

[DEFCON 1]

timmtc wrote: Incase this poet or whatever he is hasn't noticed, the Liberals are the minority government. The opposition is the conservitaves, its not like all of canada is filled with liberal tree huggers.

You are right. I have several friends there and they will give you the good with the bad about Canada and are great people. I usually copy stuff from here when a Canadian lefty socialist posts it and mail it to them for laughs.

[wieno]

timmtc wrote: Incase this poet or whatever he is hasn't noticed, the Liberals are the minority government. The opposition is the conservitaves, its not like all of canada is filled with liberal tree huggers.

Liberal Party (Slightly Left of Center) - 134 seats
Conservative Party (Right Wing) - 99 seats
Bloc Quebecois (Quebec Separatists/Left Wing) - 54 seats
New Democratic Party (Left Wing) - 19 seats
Carolyn Parrish (Crazy Anti-American Left Wing/Liberal Voter) - 1 seat
Chuck Cadman (Right Wing/Former Conservative) - 1 seat

Right Wing Seats - 100
Left Wing Seats - 208

I think the numbers speak for themselves.

[D@N]

you seem to move alot of seats to the left to suit your point. I wouldn't count the Liberals as left wing. Canada has a different spectrum for politics then Canada. Americans have a spectrum to the right of ours, their socialists would be our NDP.

The liberals tend to be very pro business and are for privation, they are centrists, not left wing.

[Saviz]

What? The Libs are centrist-lefts