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Saviz · Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 153 Location: Toronto, Ontario

Golddave forefathers didn't hunt abriginals, they tried to have sex with them so they could breed the native out of them... dumbass, get ur facts straight

Golddave · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

Saviz wrote: Golddave forefathers didn't hunt abriginals, they tried to have sex with them so they could breed the native out of them... dumbass, get ur facts straight

Did I say that dickhead? I just gave an example of a revenge killing.
Also this isn't scottland or Braveheart, we did not try to "breed" the aborigional out of them. True some settlers did have sex with them but there was no offical agenda, where are you getting your lame brain facts?
Like you would know all the way over there in Terrance and Phillip land, sorry I hope you can understand my english, I do not speak that inferior french.

Voice of Reason · Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1792

Quote: If soldiers are that culturally insensitive around their fellow soldiers, what will that imply for their treatment of foreign enemies?

I have yet to meet a "sensitive" soldier and I doubt that I would want too. These people are trained to die and kill other human beings upon command without second guessing. How sensitive can the average soldier be in the first place?

Quote: Racial intimidation is professional behavior?

If any soldiers were intimidated simply by the presence of some goofballs with sheets on their heads, I WOULD HATE TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD REACT UNDER FIRE BY IRAQI INSURGENTS! :roll:

Golddave · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

It was like a hazing thing, ok? The media here is just trying to build a mountain out of a molehill, hence bringing it out on Rememberance day much to my anger. That same base has been targeted with four other scandals in the space of 2 weeks. I am a soldier, I have been to Iraq as well as other places, a great attribute as a soldier is to be culturally sensitive and to display compassion when the situation calls for it. Havn't you heard the "winning hearts and minds" expression? Its a lot easier to do business when the locals like you and you treat them well, believe you me.

s_ianson · Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 15 Location: Australia

The flavour of the month in Australia is to feel extremely sorry towards Aboriginals and other minorites in Australia. All we do is apologise and say how sorry we are for something we were'nt even responsible for.
I can tell you from personal experience that a white person who is proud of their cultural heritage and history is discriminated against by all people in the defence force, even by his own "brothers." We have a double standard in this country where it's extremely wrong and punishable by law to be proud of yourself if your a white person.

Kindred · Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:35 am Post subject:

That's bulls**t. We, as white Australians, have a lot of making up to do. Our forefathers did slaughter innocent people, denied they existed, stole their children, and yes, we did hunt them like animals.
In fact we hunted them to extinction in Tasmania, that's a shame I'm going to live with, because to forget would make the whole genocidal binge, a historical nothing, which it most certainly is not.
You may feel a little angry because people are so apologetic, well I bet any aboriginal would gladly take that feeling over the knowledge that white colonialists, whose relatives still live, stole their children, their culture, their lives, and their identity.

Voice of Reason · Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1792

If you do not live in Australia then kindly ignore everything below the first response...

Quote: That's bulls**t. We, as white Australians, have a lot of making up to do.

If you can show me who I wronged then I will gladly apologise and even pay reparations.

Quote: Our forefathers did slaughter innocent people, denied they existed, stole their children, and yes, we did hunt them like animals.

How do you plan to atone for this? Have you handed your money and property over to an aboriginal family to make up for the crimes you admit feeling shame over? How dare you live on land that was obtained by colonialism...you should leave should you not?

Quote: In fact we hunted them to extinction in Tasmania, that's a shame I'm going to live with, because to forget would make the whole genocidal binge, a historical nothing, which it most certainly is not.

Feel free to write a letter of apology to the aboriginal community, surrender all of your property and goods to the aboriginal community and leave Australia. Would that not be the right thing to do? How can you condemn colonialism and still reap the benefits of it?

Quote: You may feel a little angry because people are so apologetic, well I bet any aboriginal would gladly take that feeling over the knowledge that white colonialists, whose relatives still live, stole their children, their culture, their lives, and their identity.

Again, feel free to write a letter of apology to the aboriginal community, surrender all of your property and goods to the aboriginal community and leave Australia. Would that not be the right thing to do? How can you condemn colonialism and still reap the benefits of it? How dare you live on land that was obtained by colonialism...you should leave should you not?