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[logic-rules]

so what do you think of the american people now? don't hate me i voted badnarik

[red dragon]

I shake my head in disbelief.....now the rest of the world has to fear another forray into war somewhere else probably as no bridges will be mended.

[thundertaker]

Oh well, at least the satiriracl comedy shows will be funnier.........

[D@N]

thundertaker wrote: Oh well, at least the satiriracl comedy shows will be funnier.........

:lol: Jon Stewart wil have it made for the next 4 years

[Kieran]

Hopefully this will encourage some sort of revolution, that would be sweet!

[Kindred]

I don't know, I think it is going to be a pretty trying few years. On one hand the U.S citizens have just mandated the actions of Bush, they have mandated two wars, one of witch was illegal, the other unjust. They have mandated torture, shady trade deals, corporate interests, and plutocratic governance. I can't say 'I'm talking about the actions of the U.S state' anymore, what I should say is 'I'm talking about the actions of most Americans' because that is exactly what a mandate is.

On the other hand, if Bush's fiscal policies continue I foresee a rather sizeable flow of capital out of America, if this is the case there may be some hope for reform of the currently unaccountable defacto governance institutions, particularly the IMF.

[perpetrator]

i'll be living there from next year on. yippie. i hope they throw me in guantanamo for uttering the word "socialism" three times.

no, seriously, after such an extreme regime getting re-elected i have no illusions whatsoever of america being anything but a sorry excuse of democracy. i do feel sorry for the vast american working class getting screwed -- and it makes me outrageous mr bush &co have won an election through making people vote out of FEAR; this simply has no place in a democracy.

s**t, this is the man that let 9/11 happen, this is the man that started a pre-emptive war, this is the man that RAISED the risk of terrorism (in case you've missed, america has never been this hated abroad)... and this is what has granted him another four years of 1984-stylish rule?

[DEFCON 1]

perpetrator wrote: i'll be living there from next year on. yippie. i hope they throw me in guantanamo for uttering the word "socialism" three times.

no, seriously, after such an extreme regime getting re-elected i have no illusions whatsoever of america being anything but a sorry excuse of democracy. i do feel sorry for the vast american working class getting screwed -- and it makes me outrageous mr bush &co have won an election through making people vote out of FEAR; this simply has no place in a democracy.

s**t, this is the man that let 9/11 happen, this is the man that started a pre-emptive war, this is the man that RAISED the risk of terrorism (in case you've missed, america has never been this hated abroad)... and this is what has granted him another four years of 1984-stylish rule?

I am more worried about the man that made you happen after reading this horse dump. :lol:

[sub10]

:!?: :? Where I come from, a big W stands for something else entirely.

[sub10]

I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs. I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking. Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy in the middle holding up both puppets. SHUT UP! ! GO BACK TO BED AMERICA, YOUR GOVERNMENT IS IN CONTROL! -Bill Hicks

[krinkle]

sub10 wrote: I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs. I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking. Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy in the middle holding up both puppets. SHUT UP! ! GO BACK TO BED AMERICA, YOUR GOVERNMENT IS IN CONTROL! -Bill Hicks

so true!

[Golddave]

A.D wrote: I don't know, I think it is going to be a pretty trying few years. On one hand the U.S citizens have just mandated the actions of Bush, they have mandated two wars, one of witch was illegal, the other unjust. They have mandated torture, shady trade deals, corporate interests, and plutocratic governance. I can't say 'I'm talking about the actions of the U.S state' anymore, what I should say is 'I'm talking about the actions of most Americans' because that is exactly what a mandate is.

On the other hand, if Bush's fiscal policies continue I foresee a rather sizeable flow of capital out of America, if this is the case there may be some hope for reform of the currently unaccountable defacto governance institutions, particularly the IMF.

AD, Must be a shock, first Howard and now Bush, Common Blair, still 2 out of 3 aren't too bad. WWHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO

[Golddave]

DEFCON 1 wrote: perpetrator wrote: i'll be living there from next year on. yippie. i hope they throw me in guantanamo for uttering the word "socialism" three times.

no, seriously, after such an extreme regime getting re-elected i have no illusions whatsoever of america being anything but a sorry excuse of democracy. i do feel sorry for the vast american working class getting screwed -- and it makes me outrageous mr bush &co have won an election through making people vote out of FEAR; this simply has no place in a democracy.

s**t, this is the man that let 9/11 happen, this is the man that started a pre-emptive war, this is the man that RAISED the risk of terrorism (in case you've missed, america has never been this hated abroad)... and this is what has granted him another four years of 1984-stylish rule?

I am more worried about the man that made you happen after reading this horse dump. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kindred]

Golddave wrote: A.D wrote: I don't know, I think it is going to be a pretty trying few years. On one hand the U.S citizens have just mandated the actions of Bush, they have mandated two wars, one of witch was illegal, the other unjust. They have mandated torture, shady trade deals, corporate interests, and plutocratic governance. I can't say 'I'm talking about the actions of the U.S state' anymore, what I should say is 'I'm talking about the actions of most Americans' because that is exactly what a mandate is.

On the other hand, if Bush's fiscal policies continue I foresee a rather sizeable flow of capital out of America, if this is the case there may be some hope for reform of the currently unaccountable defacto governance institutions, particularly the IMF.

AD, Must be a shock, first Howard and now Bush, Common Blair, still 2 out of 3 aren't too bad. WWHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm not shocked, nor angry, I know this can't go on forever. I know the very nature of the system which supports our so called leaders, I know it's entirely unsustainable and will soon be changed dramatically. You and I will both be a minority soon my friend, not just me, both of us. I'm not going to shed tears over a country which is 25% evangelist Christian re-electing an evangelist over a more secular party.

Similarly I'm not shocked that John Howard got back in, of course the mortgage seats played a large role, and now it seems *shock horror!* interests are rising anyway.
But these are all issues for another time. Have fun while it lasts, because dinosaurs will die, your ideology exists on very burrowed time, not because of any great revolution, or the threat of terrorism, but because our finite earth can't support infinite acquisition, nor should it.

BTW, I hope Blair does get back in, as I'm sure you are aware he is the leader of their labor party, imagine if the conservative party got in.

[Golddave]

A.D wrote: Golddave wrote: A.D wrote: I don't know, I think it is going to be a pretty trying few years. On one hand the U.S citizens have just mandated the actions of Bush, they have mandated two wars, one of witch was illegal, the other unjust. They have mandated torture, shady trade deals, corporate interests, and plutocratic governance. I can't say 'I'm talking about the actions of the U.S state' anymore, what I should say is 'I'm talking about the actions of most Americans' because that is exactly what a mandate is.

On the other hand, if Bush's fiscal policies continue I foresee a rather sizeable flow of capital out of America, if this is the case there may be some hope for reform of the currently unaccountable defacto governance institutions, particularly the IMF.

AD, Must be a shock, first Howard and now Bush, Common Blair, still 2 out of 3 aren't too bad. WWHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm not shocked, nor angry, I know this can't go on forever. I know the very nature of the system which supports our so called leaders, I know it's entirely unsustainable and will soon be changed dramatically. You and I will both be a minority soon my friend, not just me, both of us. I'm not going to shed tears over a country which is 25% evangelist Christian re-electing an evangelist over a more secular party.

Similarly I'm not shocked that John Howard got back in, of course the mortgage seats played a large role, and now it seems *shock horror!* interests are rising anyway.
But these are all issues for another time. Have fun while it lasts, because dinosaurs will die, your ideology exists on very burrowed time, not because of any great revolution, or the threat of terrorism, but because our finite earth can't support infinite acquisition, nor should it.

BTW, I hope Blair does get back in, as I'm sure you are aware he is the leader of their labor party, imagine if the conservative party got in.

I am aware he is in the labour party but he is dancing my tune so that will be ok if he gets in. You raise some interesting points, what are your solutions, I give you the floor. :shock:

[Kindred]

Golddave wrote: A.D wrote: Golddave wrote: A.D wrote: I don't know, I think it is going to be a pretty trying few years. On one hand the U.S citizens have just mandated the actions of Bush, they have mandated two wars, one of witch was illegal, the other unjust. They have mandated torture, shady trade deals, corporate interests, and plutocratic governance. I can't say 'I'm talking about the actions of the U.S state' anymore, what I should say is 'I'm talking about the actions of most Americans' because that is exactly what a mandate is.

On the other hand, if Bush's fiscal policies continue I foresee a rather sizeable flow of capital out of America, if this is the case there may be some hope for reform of the currently unaccountable defacto governance institutions, particularly the IMF.

AD, Must be a shock, first Howard and now Bush, Common Blair, still 2 out of 3 aren't too bad. WWHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm not shocked, nor angry, I know this can't go on forever. I know the very nature of the system which supports our so called leaders, I know it's entirely unsustainable and will soon be changed dramatically. You and I will both be a minority soon my friend, not just me, both of us. I'm not going to shed tears over a country which is 25% evangelist Christian re-electing an evangelist over a more secular party.

Similarly I'm not shocked that John Howard got back in, of course the mortgage seats played a large role, and now it seems *shock horror!* interests are rising anyway.
But these are all issues for another time. Have fun while it lasts, because dinosaurs will die, your ideology exists on very burrowed time, not because of any great revolution, or the threat of terrorism, but because our finite earth can't support infinite acquisition, nor should it.

BTW, I hope Blair does get back in, as I'm sure you are aware he is the leader of their labor party, imagine if the conservative party got in.

I am aware he is in the labour party but he is dancing my tune so that will be ok if he gets in. You raise some interesting points, what are your solutions, I give you the floor. :shock:

Three words: International Clearing Union. Now, I really have to finish this FTAA essay, but if it's not too late when I'm done (it shouldn't take very long), I'll explain what those words mean.

[Golddave]

A.D wrote: Golddave wrote: A.D wrote: Golddave wrote: A.D wrote: I don't know, I think it is going to be a pretty trying few years. On one hand the U.S citizens have just mandated the actions of Bush, they have mandated two wars, one of witch was illegal, the other unjust. They have mandated torture, shady trade deals, corporate interests, and plutocratic governance. I can't say 'I'm talking about the actions of the U.S state' anymore, what I should say is 'I'm talking about the actions of most Americans' because that is exactly what a mandate is.

On the other hand, if Bush's fiscal policies continue I foresee a rather sizeable flow of capital out of America, if this is the case there may be some hope for reform of the currently unaccountable defacto governance institutions, particularly the IMF.

AD, Must be a shock, first Howard and now Bush, Common Blair, still 2 out of 3 aren't too bad. WWHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm not shocked, nor angry, I know this can't go on forever. I know the very nature of the system which supports our so called leaders, I know it's entirely unsustainable and will soon be changed dramatically. You and I will both be a minority soon my friend, not just me, both of us. I'm not going to shed tears over a country which is 25% evangelist Christian re-electing an evangelist over a more secular party.

Similarly I'm not shocked that John Howard got back in, of course the mortgage seats played a large role, and now it seems *shock horror!* interests are rising anyway.
But these are all issues for another time. Have fun while it lasts, because dinosaurs will die, your ideology exists on very burrowed time, not because of any great revolution, or the threat of terrorism, but because our finite earth can't support infinite acquisition, nor should it.

BTW, I hope Blair does get back in, as I'm sure you are aware he is the leader of their labor party, imagine if the conservative party got in.

I am aware he is in the labour party but he is dancing my tune so that will be ok if he gets in. You raise some interesting points, what are your solutions, I give you the floor. :shock:

Three words: International Clearing Union. Now, I really have to finish this FTAA essay, but if it's not too late when I'm done (it shouldn't take very long), I'll explain what those words mean.

Yawn, I'll be eagerly anticipating that while I whack off. Cheers, nite nite.

[eynon]

A.D wrote: I don't know, I think it is going to be a pretty trying few years. On one hand the U.S citizens have just mandated the actions of Bush, they have mandated two wars, one of witch was illegal, the other unjust. They have mandated torture, shady trade deals, corporate interests, and plutocratic governance. I can't say 'I'm talking about the actions of the U.S state' anymore, what I should say is 'I'm talking about the actions of most Americans' because that is exactly what a mandate is.

On the other hand, if Bush's fiscal policies continue I foresee a rather sizeable flow of capital out of America, if this is the case there may be some hope for reform of the currently unaccountable defacto governance institutions, particularly the IMF.

what the hell was unjust about the war in Afganistan?

[Kindred]

Do you know 'just war theory', look at criteria 7.

[Golddave]

A.D wrote: Do you know 'just war theory', look at criteria 7.

Where's that? what the f**k are you talking about? You must be dropping 10 IQ points a year with all the s**t you are smoking.