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Golddave · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

We are the largest uranium exporter in the world, what are your thoughts on the issue?

Boondoggle · Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 1276

It would be in direct violation of the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) which Australia is a signatory of, and thus other nations could slap sanctions on Australia as a result of such action.

Furthermore, it's not necessary given that Australia doesn't face threats that'd justify it, and even if it did, it's close relations with other countries such as the US would be enough.

For the country to prosper, one must also consider political and economic relations with other countries in addition to security. Developing nuclear weapons would put that in a precarious situation, and do more harm than good for the country.

Canada is also a major producer of uranium, and builds its own nuclear reactors, but chooses not to develop nuclear weapons. It's also a signatory of the NPT.

Golddave · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

Boondoggle wrote: It would be in direct violation of the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) which Australia is a signatory of, and thus other nations could slap sanctions on Australia as a result of such action.

Furthermore, it's not necessary given that Australia doesn't face threats that'd justify it, and even if it did, it's close relations with other countries such as the US would be enough.

For the country to prosper, one must also consider political and economic relations with other countries in addition to security. Developing nuclear weapons would put that in a precarious situation, and do more harm than good for the country.

Canada is also a major producer of uranium, and builds its own nuclear reactors, but chooses not to develop nuclear weapons. It's also a signatory of the NPT.

I am aware of the NPT, thank you for un-necessarially clarifying it.
We would obviously have to build them covertly if we were to have them though I think we would get away with it because of our close alliances with Europe, Britain and US. I don't know what you mean by faces no threats, thats wrong, you may want to read up on our history. We have nuclear reactors to, did you know that?

rhino · Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 754 Location: New England

Q: Should Australia have nuclear weapons?

A: No way, luv :lol:

I really think it that it would be UN-WISE and a mistake for the descendants of 'criminals' to have access to weapons of mass destruction!

http://www.store.yahoo.net/upfromaustralia/portarthur.html

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Golddave · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

rhino wrote: Q: Should Australia have nuclear weapons?

A: No way, luv :lol:

I really think it that it would be UN-WISE and a mistake for the descendants of 'criminals' to have access to weapons of mass destruction!

http://www.store.yahoo.net/upfromaustralia/portarthur.html

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True, Australia was only used as a criminal dumping ground because your government stopped taking them.

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Dr Strangelove · Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 57 Location: Australia

rhino wrote: Q: Should Australia have nuclear weapons?

A: No way, luv :lol:

I really think it that it would be UN-WISE and a mistake for the descendants of 'criminals' to have access to weapons of mass destruction!

http://www.store.yahoo.net/upfromaustralia/portarthur.html

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A rather hypocritical statement coming from someone who is probably a descendant of SLAVE OWNERS.

As for the question at hand.

No Australia doesn't need Nuclear weapons. The size of Australia's land mass is a natural deterrent as any invader would need to bring everything with them in order to conduct offensive operations.

This would allow the defenders to interdict his supply lines to great effect and therefore troops would need to be drawn from the front line to protect the supply routes.

As for using Nuclear weapons in an offensive capability, Australia doesn't have to ability to conduct offensive operations against anyone without the help of a larger power such as the USA.

Kindred · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:18 am Post subject:

rhino wrote: Q: Should Australia have nuclear weapons?

A: No way, luv :lol:

I really think it that it would be UN-WISE and a mistake for the descendants of 'criminals' to have access to weapons of mass destruction!

http://www.store.yahoo.net/upfromaustralia/portarthur.html

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Hey, your country is owned and controlled by criminals now, and as mentioned above was 'founded' by genocidal, slave owning incests :lol:

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Golddave · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

Dr Strangelove wrote: rhino wrote: Q: Should Australia have nuclear weapons?

A: No way, luv :lol:

I really think it that it would be UN-WISE and a mistake for the descendants of 'criminals' to have access to weapons of mass destruction!

http://www.store.yahoo.net/upfromaustralia/portarthur.html

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A rather hypocritical statement coming from someone who is probably a descendant of SLAVE OWNERS.

As for the question at hand.

No Australia doesn't need Nuclear weapons. The size of Australia's land mass is a natural deterrent as any invader would need to bring everything with them in order to conduct offensive operations.

This would allow the defenders to interdict his supply lines to great effect and therefore troops would need to be drawn from the front line to protect the supply routes.

As for using Nuclear weapons in an offensive capability, Australia doesn't have to ability to conduct offensive operations against anyone without the help of a larger power such as the USA.

I totally agree with your statements mate, hows things?

D@N · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:59 am Post subject:

We already have way too many nuclear weapons in the world, countries like Australia should be like Canada and be proud that we are nuclear weapon's free. Also I don't think Australia has any enemies that would need nuclear deteraint, unless of course ive missed out on something?

krinkle · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 35 Location: Brisbane, Australia

Golddave wrote: We are the largest uranium exporter in the world, what are your thoughts on the issue?

Canada is the largest exporter of U to the world markets, and for the record they don't have Nuclear Weapons either.

watermelon · Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 40 Location: Tasmania

rhino wrote: Q: Should Australia have nuclear weapons?

A: No way, luv :lol:

I really think it that it would be UN-WISE and a mistake for the descendants of 'criminals' to have access to weapons of mass destruction!

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Saying that Australians are all descendent's of Criminals is like saying all americans owned slaves or illegally dealt in money and goods stolen from the Jews by the Nazi's,it happened but not for everyones grandparents.

To the Question; No nuclear arms should not be allowed into Australian Territory, think about the consequences for the wider regional stability. Would China be happy about Nuc's sitting of their coast?

red dragon · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1695 Location: Cardiff

It had to get silly at some point didn't it. :roll: :roll:

Australia is a proud country and is emerging as a world player it doesn't need nuclear weapons because it is blessed with location, witth not much surrounding it. If I am correct NZ has scrapped it's airforce because a lack of threat.

Also Ausralia's insignia has a kangaroo and an Emu like on the rugby shirts, reason they were chosen is that neither can walk backwards............a good choice. :-D :-D

Golddave · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

red dragon wrote: It had to get silly at some point didn't it. :roll: :roll:

Australia is a proud country and is emerging as a world player it doesn't need nuclear weapons because it is blessed with location, witth not much surrounding it. If I am correct NZ has scrapped it's airforce because a lack of threat.

Also Ausralia's insignia has a kangaroo and an Emu like on the rugby shirts, reason they were chosen is that neither can walk backwards............a good choice. :-D :-D

Correctamundo

Nico · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 10547 Location: Auckland

I think NZ scrapped their airforce because it was outdated and the money was redirected to the infantry, who had greater need of the funds to do peacekeeping.

pj · Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 341 Location: Southern Ireland

rhino wrote: Q: Should Australia have nuclear weapons?

A: No way, luv :lol:

I really think it that it would be UN-WISE and a mistake for the descendants of 'criminals' to have access to weapons of mass destruction!

http://www.store.yahoo.net/upfromaustralia/portarthur.html

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If Ozz should have them. Then Ireland should get them too. :lol:

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What a BIG BANG. We all join the nuclear club. :lol:

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thorn · Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: some rainy place

some'd say they're descendants of criminals, others'd say the UK exported all their high-potentials there... :-|

(jest kiddin')

Benny Trombitas · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary

Why should it have?

I mean the Us and Europe is juts about to stop the Iranian programm. Making an exception for Australia would be confusing. After all there are dozen of countries having nuclear weapons.

You know: one more country having nuclear weapons - one more potential threat to the world.
/I'm not syaing this about Australia only/

Tankgirl · Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 109

There would be an absolute public outrage if Australia built or "obtained" nuclear weapons. We don't need them. NO country needs them.

Whilst we have isolation on our side, this does not mean we are by any means safe.

We have Indonesia just a stones throw away, and we haven't done a lot of late, to endear them to our hearts.

Still, we really have no need for nuclear weapons or WMD's.

timmtc · Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 1382 Location: Vancouver Canada

I'll agree with tankgirl to some extent. However Nuclear deterrence is a big reason for peace in the middle east. If Israel did not have nuclear submarines with missles aimed all over the middle east, do you think they would have been safe from invasion? The second any country in the middle east invades Israel they will blow the entire middle east up. So yes, it can be an ensurance of peace in a passive and twisted way. Just look at the cold war.

Golddave · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1557 Location: Australia

Tankgirl wrote: There would be an absolute public outrage if Australia built or "obtained" nuclear weapons. We don't need them. NO country needs them.

Whilst we have isolation on our side, this does not mean we are by any means safe.

We have Indonesia just a stones throw away, and we haven't done a lot of late, to endear them to our hearts.

Still, we really have no need for nuclear weapons or WMD's.

Where abouts in Australia are you? I agree that we have to watch Indonesia, the largest muslim nation in the world however I do not think there would be a massive rebuttal against us as the vast majority of the world likes us plus they would be under the misguided illusion that we would be able to slow china down if they ever decided to let the lion out of the cage.